PIP Claimants without 4 Points - Daily Living

I know I keep banging on about this, but I genuinely believe those who have four-point scores (including me) are being deliberately lulled into a false sense of security, along with MPs etc.

There is zero mention, and definitely zero guarantee, that the descriptors (far less the scoring within those descriptors) will remain the same in the hybrid (ESA/PIP) version of the assessment.

I genuinely think that's the point - MPs may well be hoodwinked into believing the majority of claimants will continue 'as is' but without questioning the foundations of the entitlement.

Sneaky, cheating, duplicitous behaviour is the modus operandi of politicians. It's their fundamental DNA.

What these figures also don't include are the number of valid claimants rejected at the first hurdle, who could not face going through the appeal for whatever reason.

When I was going through my original PIP (from DLA) claim, my autism support worker had several other students she supported who were in this situation. :/

PIP is not doing the job it is meant to do even as it currently is :/

I'm a tad concerned about the 4 point thing because I know full well from experience that just because someone may have scored 4 or more in one descriptor in one assessment it doesn't mean they will in the next. I've experienced it myself, had 8 points for engaging, dropped to 0 and after appeal where the DWP overturned the decision without a tribunal I only received 2.

I personally believe the problem is with the HCPs, the government do need to overhaul the system but not in the way that they are proposing, it's very dangerous and it's going to cost more money in the long run. Not only that there are roughly 1.3 disabled people working and 500k carers, a lot of those will end up on unemployment which is what I thought Labour were moaning about, not only that, since we've had the Labour party and Reeves, our unemployment levels have gone up.

They've not thought any of it through properly, they've come up with a list of ideas without even consulting with people properly and are fixated on trying to get those who can't work back into work. No amount of money that the government takes from me is going to cure me and get me back into work, simple as.

I'm also in the LCWRA group.. making PIP a portal for 2 different payments is a massive mistake as well.

just makes for very grim reading to say the least 😔 can imagine a lot of people may only one way out if they lose there PIP 🪦 I myself am so nervous about my PIP being reviewed in 2027 already and it fills me with dread, I’m glad I’ve got a pre paid non attendance cremation organised, just need to get a living will and lasting power of attorney for both health and finance sorted out. Although not having any family or friends just makes it harder to sort out, not having someone to act on my behalf or carry out my best wishes. I dread to think how much it would cost to have a solicitor in a retainer…..

That’s a good strategy to have, just keep sticking to your guns going forward.

I’m just going to keep trying to keep my head above water, even though it’s a huge struggle. I’m just dreading it in 2027 to have to take the forms to citizens advice to help me fill them out, last time it was a place in chesterfield where they asked me the questions and filled the forms out for me. When I’m under pressure with questions I struggle to get my words out, or articulate how I’m feeling. Just being in a new city, with people that don’t know me, not knowing properly about my past. Someone put on my mental health records that my Depression and BPD were in remission, treating them like I’m in remission from cancer! Told the complaints team after finding it out, that it’s such a crass term to use and that none of my mental health conditions will be in remission until I’m dead.

Thanks @Trevor_PIP :)

Oh yeah someone will definitely help and advise with form filling, Scope and another forum are where I received advice with regards to PIP, ESA and then migrating from ESA SG to UC LCWRA.