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  • Martinp
    Martinp Online Community Member Posts: 217 Empowering

    Twisted Firestarter 😁

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,502 Championing

    Thats how I feel like I missed it I'm worried because I'm terrible online but your right loads of help that's really good your ready to go

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 195 Empowering

    It's like something out of Hitler's playbook, work will set you free indeed.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 195 Empowering

    the DWP found that more time with a work coach improved mental well being for claimants with mental health issues

    This sounds like more propaganda, otherwise they must've been really friendly easy going work coaches, because when I had to see a work coach even though she wasn't that bad and nothing was mandatory, my depression, anxiety, and stress got a lot worse (and not just in the moment, it was actually long lasting, I'd be waking up everyday feeling a lot worse) because of her always trying to push me into things that I wouldn't be able to cope with or just wasn't able to face, it made my mental health worse.

    I just cannot see how a work coach trying to push someone with mental health issues into things with the threat of sanctions would improve their mental health.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 6,502 Championing

    I really don't believe they will get away with this they are literally despised because of starmer kendell reeves the amount of damage they done already they may have an agenda I truly beleive thier MPs despise them of course some will be to scared to vote against but I believe this will be watered down and tomorrow they will use buzz words get us into a heightened state don't fall for it they literally live off our fear blah blah blah

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 9,845 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    It's a very grey area I think @Ross1975 I've been there as well and I actually found a bit of encouragement really helped my mental health and the more I did something, the more comfortable I became, which again helped the mental health. It can be a positive snowballing effect if done correctly and tailored to the individual. If done badly, it can make an individuals conditions a lot worse, dangerously so.

    But of course it will be different for every person and in some cases, it will be impossible to make it work. They seem to be wanting to try a one size fits all coaching method, which will fail in many cases.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,597 Championing

    What about work coaches “ encouraging “ those of us with physical conditions ie ME and fibromyalgia? My pain and fatigue is so bad I’m mostly house / bed bound . Just sitting in a chair for short periods of time tire me out. Pushing people with ME is actually harmful to us . Where would we stand legally if we lose pip plus lcwra ?

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 2,250 Championing

    I received mine 15 months before my current award ends.

    Goodness knows whats going on lol.

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 9,845 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    I'd really be hoping the work coaches used some common sense and saw you'd be unable to work @secretsquirrel1 🤞

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,597 Championing

    It’s like the assessor situation, all to do with luck as to who your work coach / assessor is .

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,597 Championing

    That’s just not fair , we don’t getting enough rest in between assessments as it is . Yet I hear of people still on DLA , doesn’t make sense

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 195 Empowering
    edited June 17

    I agree, if done correctly I can see it improving some people's mental health.

    What I'm worried about though are work coaches who don't do it correctly, and especially work coaches who are not understanding and don't have empathy and expect you to just get a grip, I would be done for if I had to start seeing a work coach like that with the threat of sanctions, I wouldn't survive. This is one of my worst nightmares.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 195 Empowering

    Exactly, some are lovely and some are sadistic.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,597 Championing

    Sometimes it’s the lovely ones you need to be careful of

  • Fuzzy200
    Fuzzy200 Online Community Member Posts: 31 Contributor

    I have just been reading this article. Apparently no 10 have said no more surprises or changes, the bill will go through.

    https://liveapp.inews.co.uk/category/3752544/content.html

  • Fuzzy200
    Fuzzy200 Online Community Member Posts: 31 Contributor
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 1,597 Championing

    I can’t read as not subscribed. He seems to be u turning on everything apart from us . Sooner he’s forced out the better

  • charlie72
    charlie72 Online Community Member Posts: 236 Pioneering

    I think if certain people have to engage with a workcoach, and lets say you have social anxiety, can't engage with people properly etc then the reasonable adjustments will have to be made. They can't force you to attend a JC if it would put you in danger or more distress, there are laws which protect us against that. The equality act 2010 for one, and your human rights too, I think most of us would just have to engage periodically either on the phone or through your online journals. If they try force me to a JC i'll be taking legal action against the DWP, the workcoach, and JC involved. I refuse to let them scare me, intimidate me, or make threats of me losing my benefits, when the law is on my side. It's all utter nonsense, and more scare tactics by the government and Kendall to demoralise us and beat us down, don't fall for it, it's completely illegal, immoral, and unworkable.