Vehicles blocking pavements

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  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,686 Championing

    That's because "Personal" scooters are (thankfully) - illegal to use in public places in UK

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,102 Pioneering

    You are right - bullying the disabled and vulnerable is an old tradition in the UK. What is happening now with the Green Book is further proof of that.

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    By the way, the probability of being hit by a car is greater for a wheelchair/mobility user than for an 2w e-scooter - a standing person is easier to see.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,102 Pioneering
    edited June 2025

    Not fighting yet?)

    I'll add - in the photo above you can see plants on the fences, which steal useful pavement space. The posts definitely take up pavement space.
    And the side mirrors of the cars too.

  • JessieJ
    JessieJ Community Member Posts: 1,386 Championing

    @egister, I haven't got a clue why you posted all those photos covering most that I mentioned in my post or why you went on about the US & speeds or the fact that they apparently, according to you, are all rentals. There are rentals here too & guess what, they are fast & often seen on paths where they are not allowed to be.

    I'll add, e-scooters/e-bikes should not be on any pavements, like the bloke pictured above, private or rental. In the UK, pavements are for walking on & if a wheelchair user, as we're governed to 4MPH. We come across the wing mirrors, over grown gardens, hedges, **** dangerous bumps, dips & cracks in paving stones. The last thing we & any pedestrian needs is speeding idiots flying passed or into us or forcing us to stop so that they can go on their merry way without a nod, thanks or KMA. There are no excuses for them to be on pathways. So, carry on & spoil for a fight with your retorts or weird excuses, you have now got a reply. If you have an e-scooter, leave the paths for us that cannot go on the roads, it will be a safer place for us in wheelchairs & as you have said, a standing person is easier to see. I just wish I could stand & then walk upright so I would be easier to see as it seems those on e-scooters, illegally on paths, don't see us either, even when they have passengers!! Anyway, have a good day, I'm off this thread now.

    Oh, der… the reason I actually came back to this thread was, I was trundling along a pathway today & there was a highways transit truck & trailer parked just down from the bloke's house, I know that, as my sister lives in the same road & he (& his colleague who lives opposite & parks his van fully on that side's path!) always parks there, was too far over & I had to go over on grass & still caught something on his trailer, turns out, a metal reflector bar on it & it's now a bit bent. I am now going to report both of them, as enough is enough & they can walk around the corner to their bleddy vans.

  • JessieJ
    JessieJ Community Member Posts: 1,386 Championing

    😆 @Wheeled_Weapon , I've given up on that, not into online arguing. I'm only a part time apologetic wallflower, but can fire up quite easily. 😉

    Good one @Ranald!

    Just to add, the parking in my sister's road has been reported this morning, as it is just not on. We'll see what happens.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Community Member Posts: 3,686 Championing

    Razor 300S

    • "Please note: this product is not intended for use as a mobility vehicle.
    • Note: Vehicle not to be used on public highways (roads/pavements), vehicle must be used on private property with owner’s consent, appropriate protective equipment to be worn at all times, children must be supervised by an adult at all times. This product is not intended for use as a mobility vehicle."
  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,102 Pioneering
  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,102 Pioneering

    That is, you have not read either the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities or ISO 9999 Assistive products for persons with disability - Classification and terminology (now Assistive products - Classification and terminology).

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    E-scooters are legally restricted to private land or specific areas, and their use on pavements is prohibited, despite being used by some disabled people as mobility aids. Mobility scooters (both class 2 and 3) are designed for individuals with mobility impairments and are allowed on pavements, e-scooters are not.

    E-scooters are not mentioned in Assistive products - Classification and terminology.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,102 Pioneering

    E-scooters are not mentioned in Assistive products - Classification and terminology.

    Do you say this after reading ISO 9999

    12 17 06?

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    I have read it yes. An e-scooter is not classed as an invalid carriage though, it is a "powered transporter"

    "invalid carriage” means a mechanically propelled vehicle the weight of which unladen does not exceed 254 kilograms and which is specially designed and constructed, and not merely adapted, for the use of a person suffering from some physical defect or disability and is used solely by such a person. - Road Traffic Act.

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    "So, you're a wheelchair user now Ted?"

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,373 Championing

    As hilarious as that scene is, I'm afraid I've had to remove the link @Ranald as people may hear it as swearing. I've got to err on the side of caution. Sorry!

  • starbuck
    starbuck Community Member Posts: 213 Empowering

    My husband is partially sighted and this causes him no end of problems when he's out walking with a cane. He's in training for a guide dog and he has to tell the dog how to go around a car. It shouldn't be necessary. Pavements are for people, end of.

    Guide dogs are currently running a campaign to tackle pavement parking but I don't think it will go very far unless the government puts it's foot down and makes it illegal, which they won't because they're making far too much money from the oil companies to want to take cars off the road. It's an argument I could ramble all day about and I'm probably a hypocrit as I do drive a car when I have too. The rest of the time I walk or take the bus.

    The lack of public transport in this country is terrible but I do wonder how many people would give up their cars even if there was good alternatives. We seem to be welded to our vehicles and I'm not sure what it will take to stop people.

    I would happily stop driving tomorrow if I could but having disabled family members makes it a problem.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,102 Pioneering

    Please specify at what exact time the term "invalid carriage" was introduced and by whom. Hint:

    "invalid carriage”.... Invalid carriage .... Invacar

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    Also please provide a link where the Road Traffic Act 1988 mentions "powered transporter"

    I still haven't seen from your words that you have read ISO 9999 12 17 06.

    Please cite the content of this section of ISO 9999, otherwise it looks like we are talking about different things.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,102 Pioneering

    Let me remind you that some of the 'sovereign citizens' invented and built the first real combat submarines to fight the empire that oppressed them.
    So it's never a bad idea to be careful with 'sovereign citizens'.