Scopes reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.

As I understand it Existing Claimants are to be reviewed under Current Rules, Even after Nov 2026 their Awards will Not be subject to the 4point rule on Review?

Otherwise what's the Concession.

Only New claimants are to be assessed under New rules?

(PLEASE) Only those that know for a Fact. Much appreciated

Changing PIP to vouchers would be a disaster. For one, It'd be an administrative nightmare that'd end up costing more. Most seriously, disability vouchers would also make disabled people vulnerable to financial abuse and coercive control by the government and others (and hence, violate human rights).

That's why claimants receive money.

Hi @secretsquirrel1 - that part about making it easier for 'people with multiple impairments' could just be the Guardian's impression/choice of words. I don't mean that in a negative way, as I'd guess many of us have more than one disorder, but I don't think we've heard those words in relation to these supposed 'concessions' from the Gov't. Don't lose any hope over this either, as we have many charities supporting us over these dubious reforms.

The Gov't are wanting to change the words about scc in their Bill, which hopefully won't get through, from a LCWRA descriptor applies 'the majority of the time,' to it applies 'constantly.' This obviously needs to be addressed, as we've discussed before.

Please don't worry, the question would be how would the DWP disprove that, even if your condition fluctuates, you don't have that condition all of the time, so you therefore 'fit' the descriptor? It's just a very poor use of words, & these have to be very clear to change legislation.

I've said that I'll question this use of the word 'constantly' when I email my response to the Gov't, & I promise I will - that's my homework for the weekend! 😊

You raise a point many of us are considering @emc123 - it reads like current claimants will not be subjected to the proposed PIP 4 point rule, but there's nothing to say this will carry on 'indefinitely.'

This 'possibly' because after the Gov't hopes this Bill is passed, changes to the PIP assessment & the descriptors used have already been proposed in their Green Paper. So, we can't know for sure how this will pan out.

As you say, with some uncertainties like this, how can a MP make an informed decision?

Yes. Mainly at risk are those trying for C.O.C , (Someone on Enhanced x2 for eg isn't likely to initiate one of these Unplanned Reviews).

A Planned Review for these people especially a NO Change AR1 would be Much harder to attack. (If it Is stopped, there's Tribunal, and Not a New Claim….they're gonna be Inundated).

What we Need Confidence in is a Planned Review initiated by DWP the reassessment would be under Current Rules, as Kendall Said 'Stay in the Current System".

Exactly this. None of this can be trusted.

Whilst it appears many of us would be okay if the current rules would still apply to us on renewal, we need to keep on fighting for those waiting to transfer to PIP or who may apply for it at a later date.
I don't want there to be any changes, but more than that, I don't want there to be a two tier unfair system.

What is the governments definition of a NEW CLAIMANT ?

ie) When do they plan the cut off date to be ?