Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.

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  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 3,044 Championing

    Not a shred of hope or positivity has become of any of what this dreadful government has announced.

    I have been trying to remain positive but its becoming increasingly difficult with so much stacked against us.

    As for the idea of vouchers, well stick them up the jacksy!

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 302 Empowering

    Sorry Meredith, I want to keep my PIP. I am a pensioner with long term debilitating conditions that I have had for many years. I do not want AA, it might work for your dad it would not work for me.

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 302 Empowering

    MW, I still remain very deeply concerned by the whole ''we have won ''. There are so many unknowns to us at this point, we need the whole thing to be scrapped, not tinkered with. We still have the changes to the assessments to come yet and it is my belief all the money the Gov are loosing now with concessions will be taken back ''with interest'' when the changes occur. You are correct the phrasing is very ''fluffy'' we need an absolute definition for all of them, lets see if we get them, I doubt it, they will waffle as usual. Hope the meeting goes well, cant wait to hear the outcome 😊

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 302 Empowering

    It does appear some folk are beginning to understand that we have not won ! It is just ''words'' from the Gov in an attempt to cover the cracks. Don't be fooled folks, we need to be vigilant now more than ever, we needed this paper to be scrapped altogether not just tinkered with 😊

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,110 Pioneering

    People are fuel for governments, and disabled people are pollutants of the fuel.

  • egister
    egister Posts: 1,110 Pioneering

    Personally, I think the days of the Starmer government are numbered. He has assembled a fantastic team of incompetent people who literally turn everything they undertake into ashes.

  • emc123
    emc123 Online Community Member Posts: 139 Empowering

    Who, since Rishi, has suggested Vouchers? It's been very Clear That's Not happening. Why has that word reared it's ugly head, again?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,876 Championing

    No I been reading up changes will be April 2026/2027 let's hope stays at that or we get letter soon because esa migration up to April 2026 God never thought I'd wish for the letter always something to worry for never ending

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,876 Championing
  • bton1968
    bton1968 Online Community Member Posts: 155 Empowering
    edited June 28

    because poster duc749 said on here (page 4) he/she is in favour of them ! 🙄

    "

    duc749 said ⬇️

    Personal Independence Payment should be paid in vouchers. Never understood why claimants receive money. Vouchers will allow claimants to purchase only items that will help their disability and not spent on irrelevant items. I have been on PIP for several years and believe that the maximum length between assessments should not exceed three years unless a terminal illness is diagnosed.

    By switching to vouchers there would a reduction in claimants overnight. "

  • mrsBB
    mrsBB Online Community Member Posts: 302 Empowering

    Zipz don't you dare duck out now 🤗 you have so many friends here, we can get through this together buddy, one breath at a time 😊

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 4,083 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi @Zipz I'm really sorry how all of this is affecting you. It's been a really turbulent week to say the least. Please know you've got a community here that cares. I'm going to pop you an email imminently - please keep an eye out for it. 💛

  • Meredithshep
    Meredithshep Online Community Member Posts: 95 Empowering

    I totally understand why you would rather keep your PIP, my dad manages financially but only just. He has bladder and bowel incontinence and cannot change himself, his shoulders are bone on bone but nothing can be done because he's too frail for surgery. His parkinsons shuffle is a snails pace and he freezes, can't walk much anyway because all his life he's had a deformed foot that is now so bad he has special shoes made by the NHS, his tremors are almost constant now. He has the falls team out several times per week to get him up, sometimes twice in a day. Can't cook or dress himself and needs 24 hour supervision due to his health and his advanced dementia ……. that's not fair either that he gets less when his conditions are so advanced just because he managed to get through his working life without claiming any type of benefit. It's a sorry state of affairs when it's a two tier system either way, he's no less deserving of PIP than anyone else the only reason he hasn't got it is his age so he has AA which is less than PIP but as a pensioner. They have to do something to make things fair on everyone including those yet to claim for disabilities in the future, something has to give as it's not sustainable.

  • Hopeless
    Hopeless Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 962 Empowering

    I got my housing costs wrong! I just put my total rent. I got a notification to sign in to my UC account because my landlord had said my rent is so much plus an eligible service charge (added up to the same amount I’d put). I just had to confirm that my landlord was correct. UC were fine with it. I imagine it’s a common mistake and they could see the total rent was the same anyway

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,876 Championing

    Thats amazing sounds like a plan yes please I be asking you all for help glad your applying for pip

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,876 Championing

    Thankyou I get so stressed on phone I will be a hot mess but what's new!! Can you so pip application online some areas can God all this since October 2023 been constant flight or fight mode do you know about the admenments list can't find any information of how many still on list have a relaxing day going to be hot hot

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,876 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 7,876 Championing

    So it is a money bill no scrutiny 6 hours to vote on I'm so angry that meg hillier actually did what she did do you think she had a private vendetta doesn't make sense she was being interviewed like starmer had parted the red sea and the angels was singing in the back ground all besties again who loses US mentally emotionally physically feel like thier private punchbag rotten treatment I couldn't do that to anyone I suppose we are caring thier void of all emotions

  • charl1234
    charl1234 Online Community Member Posts: 299 Empowering

    I am trapped in a job I don't like that much because of consession my employer makes and although I am truly grateful I would like to get another job but the reason I stay is because getting a job at interview when you explain your disabilities means no one will touch you and I can see why so getting people into work is a joke sorry it won't happen, if it was simply a case of mobility a wheelchair and a ramp great but of someone is in alot of pain then just provide a wheelchair isn't enough mobility has to be considered and should be part of daily living also, I agree any vote of this getting through is wrong, pile the pressure on folks it's the only way we can win

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 4,083 Scope Online Community Coordinator
    edited June 28

    Hi @happyman I'd like to think that "new" means exactly that, but hesitant to say with 100% certainty until we've seen these concessions put on to paper.

    I appreciate that's not the answer anyone wants right now but everything is moving so quickly at the minute with lots of conversations and decisions happening overnight almost, as we've seen this week, and the majority being shared via the media before the Government.

    I'm really hopeful that we'll have some more clarity over the next week, especially early on with the vote taking place Tuesday. We'll try our absolute best to keep you informed as we're being updated but as @Albus_Scope mentioned, with the fast pace of changes we're all hearing at the same time, including us here at Scope.

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