Scope's reply to the governments planned concessions to the green paper.
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Nigel Farage was just ranting that fraudsters can get on PIP for life after a 10 minute zoom call with their GP. Absolutely clueless on every level.
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well if they just accepted the u turn that new claimants only would be affected then we wouldn't be back to square 1. Benefits rules change and I wasn't able to claim old style esa but had to claim UC and the health element , but now the bill has been passed and we are tortured again with the anxiety of not knowing , maybe to try and kill a few more of us off .
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I think they still have a blank cheque to do what they want after Timms review on assessments, activities and descriptors. But the bill isn’t final yet. MP’s are seemingly demanding more detail on the review before next weeks third reading and vote.
Still hope the speaker won’t let this sail through as a money bill next week, too. If he doesn’t designate it a money bill, the Lords can put a ton of scrutiny on every line in the bill if they want, and effectively force amendments.
So July 9th next week is when the third reading happens, short debate and then vote.2 -
we were okay until the MP's wanted more so now we are punished , they passed it and its what they wanted . Simms will review it and then we will all need to get four points , just as they wanted .
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Yes seemed to go ok, nice assessor, made me at ease, couldn't understand a few questions even though simple questions.
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Sorry, but I don't think we were okay at all. Nothing was secure or clear, it was a mess and still is. None of it is reform, it's just cuts and spite. I think they were always going to punish us.
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MP’s are demanding more clarity on the review before next week’s third reading and vote (July 9th). I’m hopeful they will force the government to limit the scope with another concession.
4 points is just a technicality anyway. They could always make it twice as hard to get 2 points in the descriptors, and thus in real terms it’s 4 points for everyone.2 -
Did anyone here listen to their ramblings ? Was ME mentioned regarding the Timms report ?
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I don't think anyone knows what has passed and what has not...
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Thanks I'll try to remember that when happens. I know my rent price but didn't keep my service charge letter..I'll login to my northern counties account but they often good wi that stuff.
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So what does this mean for us who are already on pip. And for us who yet to be moved to UC .Also when we get reassessed do we have to abide by the 4 point rule
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I think regardless of how any of this turns out, we can only be sure of one thing, that they're going to make it a lot harder for all of us, current or future.
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I don’t want to sound doom and gloom but who would you vote in the next general election? Reform? Conservatives? Really are the two who would stand any chance and both would be worse than labour unfortunately.
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As it'll ask you for a username to open a UC account, to start with, don't bother about fancy or nice names, it'll keep saying to you that such a username is in use. Imagine, millions of claimants are on their system. I tried with all sorts of names, including the names of some of the smallest stars in the Milky Way, in vain! This was really what took my time, until I recalled the French name of my dog when I was living in France ages ago, and bang.
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The four points have been removed from the bill , so I understand , Timms will review it in November 2026, that is what I understand .
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This Timms bill they were referring to what is it?
Also what about UC
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Hi chiaried,
Did you happen to watch the debate at all today? I ask as it was mentioned that an mp mentioned serious conditions and ME. I didn’t watch it and can’t find anything online
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Oh maybe your hear some good news have you got the severe part of esa
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I think we will all be doing alot of emailing this week really has to be done i heard that speaker friendly with starmer
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Labour's Mary Kelly Foy told MPs: "I popped out for a banana earlier on and, when I came back in, things had changed again. So I'm even more unclear on what I'm voting on."
After the vote had taken place, Labour's Ian Lavery told the BBC: "This is an absolute shambles. I've never seen anything like it."
Both the Liberal Democrats and the Conservatives criticised the process and said the bill should be pulled entirely.
The government initially announced its plans for a shake-up of the benefits system in March, including measures to limit eligibility for Pip, the main disability benefit in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, and freeze the health-related element of universal credit.
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