The Universal Credit Bill becomes law. Here are the changes to disability benefits you need to know

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  • LurgeeLife
    LurgeeLife Online Community Member Posts: 16 Empowering
    edited August 2025

    I've already provided my reasons for not waiting for the publication of the White Paper so your suggestion is something I cannot inherently get behind. You have the option of not engaging with this thread if you find it jarring.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 4,329 Championing

    I agree.

    Things are bad enough for us without people arguing and point scoring.

    Personally I am waiting for an official announcement to be made and hopefully that will happen soon.

  • LurgeeLife
    LurgeeLife Online Community Member Posts: 16 Empowering
    edited August 2025

    You are so badly wrong. The WCA scrappage was NOT in the UC Bill and has NOT been passed via Primary Legislation yet

    This is the UC Bill which does not contain any reference to the WCA being scrapped:
    https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/62123/documents/6889

    The Big Issue today have published an article precisely on the upcoming scrappage of the Work Capability Assessment to be included in the autumn White Paper which has NOT been voted on by Parliament yet:

    https://www.bigissue.com/news/social-justice/benefit-cuts-disabled-people-work-capability-assessment/

    You are gravely misleading people on here.

    There is still an opportunity to ensure the WCA scrappage doesn't go ahead.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,552 Championing

    jw68, miscreants is the right word for them.

    I'm 100% persuaded that nothing has changed since I claimed Incapacity Benefits in 2006. DWP has knowingly put me at risk of harm and homelessness by denying my rightful entitlement ever since! I've told them I'm just waiting to retire so they'll leave me alone. They have no intention of leaving me alone just yet though 😔

    I have identified what I believe is the root of the scam which is a 'Correction Slip' inserted into the ESA regs by IDS in June 2011 which was carried into the 2012 Welfare Reform Act unscrutinised and unchallenged.

    It didn't correct anything; it corrupted the ESA regs. It was a corruption slip. I've tried and tried to explain it on this forum but members still believe it was so long ago that it no longer matters. It does.

    In 2015, IDS suddenly spotted "a fundamental flaw in the regulations", new cuts were agreed and ESA was further corrupted by the removal of reg 29 -(2)(b) - exceptional circumstances - from the WCA process. That was the Welfare Reform and Work Act 2016.

    Reg 35 -(2)(a)b) under Part 6 of the ESA regulations is the equivalent of reg 29 -(2)b) under Part 5.

    In 2008, there was a Work-Related Activity Assessment (WRAAt) (Part 6) and a Work Capability Assessment (WCA) (Part 5) to determine eligibility for an award - in that order.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,552 Championing

    Hi and welcome to Scope! You shouldn't have to fight to be heard on here!!

    I want to understand and members need to understand these changes to WORKING-AGE BENEFITS.

    Please start a new thread, perhaps with Scope's help - this is the only platform I use - we need information and facts, urgently.

    TYVM for all you've done and are doing 🤝

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,552 Championing

    Albus, please can we have two separate threads so the rest of us can move on from discussing PIP?

  • Albus_Alumni
    Albus_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 11,423 Championing

    If people wish to create a new discussion about PIP, then that's totally fine @WhatThe but for now I will ask nicely that people keep this particular topic related to universal credit.

    Your cooperation is appreciated.

  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 5,552 Championing
    edited August 2025

    My first post was in drafts, written ages ago..

    All the attention paid to PIP (and little else) was exactly what happened 10 years ago, too. It was never meant to continue past State Pension age. Another failure.

    We need to catch up with UC - 13 years of it - and changes to working-age benefits.

  • diceman24
    diceman24 Online Community Member Posts: 5 Listener

    Evening all looking at some posts in here makes me wonder if these people are just scaremongering and making the real chronic ill people frightened even more after reading these posts. Let’s wait and see what the this government is planed for the real disabled person I always go by if you are genuinely ill to work and have a severe life long condition that’s has no cure and will progressively get worse and has medically been verified by a leading nhs consultant than you have nothing to worry about. I suffer from muscular dystrophy and it’s progressive and will not get better and I have a full time job already which is dealing with my disease so NO I don’t worry about what governments try to bring it. What makes me mad is to see people playing the system and taking money fraudulent from any government. Rand over my hands are tired to keep posting on site every 5 or 10 minute take care thank you for reading my post

  • LurgeeLife
    LurgeeLife Online Community Member Posts: 16 Empowering

    Nope.

    See below screenshot from Work and Pensions Committee Report published on 29th July 2025, 7 days after the UC bill passed the House of Lords.

    https://committees.parliament.uk/publications/49050/documents/257767/default/

    Clearly states that the Government *will* (future tense) legislate to remove the WCA. This is going to be done via Primary Legislation not Secondary Legislation as you are stating. That is clearly indicated in paragraph 37 of the Green Paper: "we will implement this change via primary legislation" (screenshot provided again below).

    https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/pathways-to-work-reforming-benefits-and-support-to-get-britain-working-green-paper/pathways-to-work-reforming-benefits-and-support-to-get-britain-working-green-paper

    The UC Bill does not scrap LCWRA at all, it is a bill that indicates how the rates will change over certain years depending on which claimant group someone falls into. LCWRA & IR ESA are both very much labelled in that bill. The rate for new LCWRA after Apr 2026 is only indicated for 2026-2027 to leave it open to the changes the Government want to push through Parliament via FURTHER Primary Legislation following this autumn's White Paper, so it is NOT set in stone and this does not somehow confirm that the WCA has already been scrapped or that Secondary Legislation has already been completed.

    I notice how I'm the only one of us backing up their points with ACTUAL EVIDENCE (screenshots, links) whilst you're just saying stuff.

    You are misleading people and making them think their fate has already been sealed in terms of the WCA. You're the one scaremongering on this thread not me. I'm trying to let people know it's not a done deal yet.

    I've also provided a link to The Big Issue article published a few days ago, in one of my replies above, which also backs up what I'm saying. The DWP were given a right of reply to that article and therefore if anything was inaccurate in that article it wouldn't have been published.

    I'm not posting on here anymore because you are intent on proving yourself as correct even when you're not.

    Anybody reading this please judge this based on the evidence provided, not just what someone says. I can be found over on X with the same handle if anyone wants to properly join the opposition to the White Paper. I refuse to keep draining my already severely depleted energy on someone who is not engaging in good faith.

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  • Danny123
    Danny123 Online Community Member Posts: 223 Empowering

    Absolutely 😊👍 these changes will be anything but delivered on time , not to mention when they are finally ready to be rolled out it will be a gradual process , with almost certainty of it being new claims first , i mean these are big reforms and a massive undertaking , very worst ways for people ( including people in my situation ) of being on CBESA and LCWRA but no pip , your looking at the end of 2028 / 2029.... And even then there talking about transitional protection for existing claiments , not to mention a election year coinciding with all of this 😂🤦.... I've definitely learnt not to get sucked in as much by every single media article and YouTube content you see as the gossip and false information it all creates is quite dangerous....when we know what's actually happening we can go from there .... It doesn't matter how much people think they know because quite frankly it's all based on panicked guess work and trying to fill in the blanks to things you can't possibly know , debilitating not to know absolutely but definitely doesn't help to just try and put 2 and 2 together , does even less good to be arguing about it

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    Oh yes we will fight I'm ready for it I been working on this

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing

    That's really good still awaiting reply from mine but I will keep emailing them all hope your well

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  • bton1968
    bton1968 Online Community Member Posts: 156 Empowering

    Today's daily telegraph, Starmer at it again ?

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  • Danny123
    Danny123 Online Community Member Posts: 223 Empowering

    Me and you are in the same boat as i get cbesa and lcwra but no pip , I can't remember exactly what you get but if I remember correctly it's that sort of situation .... I don't think any thing will change for us until the WCA abolishment in mid 2028 ..... We may not even get reassessed before then .... I'm 4 years overdue but I still think there's a chance existing claimants won't be reasessesd until the WCA has been abolished ..... There's little stirrings again , especially from the telegraph and there personal attack on the disabled .... I think garage will get in personally ..... Who ever comes in were screwed really 🤷 .... Until that time I'm aware that I could get a UC review , the bank checks are starting in april 2026 and also I'm.aware of a reasessment that could be at any time all the way up till mid 2028 🤦.... If I get through all that then I'll worry about us having to take the pip test just to keep what we get now .... Ive worried so much I made myself a mess over everything ..... Can't take it everyday , just need to roll with it , only choice we have 😩

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,796 Championing