Odd payment to bank account

teresasue
teresasue Online Community Member Posts: 16 Connected
edited November 22 in Universal Credit (UC)

Hi there I'm my son's appointee and he migrated from ESA to UC in September with a lot of help from people on here and he is due another payment including LCWRA on Monday which looks correct. But today a payment just shows his Nat Ins number and £115.19p paid into his bank account I'm worried what it is and don't know what to do. Thanks if anyone can help

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  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 7,931 Championing
    edited November 22

    If he migrated in September he should have had his final ESA payment already.

    Are there any letters in the payment reference after his NI number?

    You could also make enquiries with the bank.

  • teresasue
    teresasue Online Community Member Posts: 16 Connected

    @Kimi87 Hi there when I looked at his account last night that's when it had appeared. Worried I checked again this morning it's now changed to saying

    HMRC DIR TAX PYTS so could it be some sort of Tax rebate but why don't think he'd be due anything as he's not working? I'm worried about upsetting his UC payments which is hopefully correct. Don't know if I have to tell them?

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 7,931 Championing

    It might be a historical tax refund if he's worked in the past?

    HMRC would be the place to contact and ask.

    With UC it would depend on whether the payment is classed as income.

    A small deduction might be made, but just for the Assessment Period in which it was received.

  • teresasue
    teresasue Online Community Member Posts: 16 Connected

    @Kimi87 Hi when he migrated I couldn't cope with ESA changing to NS ESA and UC so closed it before it started he got his final payment deducted from first UC payment of course l. But I seem to remember someone saying he'd get a P60 if something when closing that benefit? He did receive a yearly tax notice? He hasn't worked for 19 years unable to

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 7,931 Championing

    You'd need to contact HMRC to find out what the payment was for as it originated from them.

  • teresasue
    teresasue Online Community Member Posts: 16 Connected

    Ok thanks if its right do I have to tell UC don't want to upset everything or will they know about it automatically please

  • teresasue
    teresasue Online Community Member Posts: 16 Connected

    @Kimi87 ok thanks if it is correct do I have to tell UC don't want to upset it all now or will they already know about it automatically please

  • teresasue
    teresasue Online Community Member Posts: 16 Connected

    @Kimi87 thank you for your help have found his P45 that's what I was thinking of they sent it when his ESA claim was closed when he transferred to UC. So not sure if that's generated anything the only other thing I can think of is his little pension £33.60 a month? There is a tax phone number on the P45. What do I do about telling UC please if it's correct which I doubt do tax make mistakes?

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 7,931 Championing

    I'd get some proper advice from a trained benefits advisor.

    https://advicefinder.turn2us.org.uk/

  • teresasue
    teresasue Online Community Member Posts: 16 Connected

    @Kimi87 thank you for all your help where do I find that sort of help though ? I will also ring the tax office on Monday to see if it's correct

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 7,931 Championing

    If you click on the purple text in my reply above, that will take you to a page where you can search for local help.

  • teresasue
    teresasue Online Community Member Posts: 16 Connected

    @Kimi87 thanks I looked it up I I never thought of citizens advice they helped me claim would it be ok to call them next week I still have their number

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 7,931 Championing

    Not sure which one you mean.

    You can contact your local Citizens Advice branch for assistance certainly, the dedicated Help to Claim service (national) only deals with new claims up until the first payment.

  • teresasue
    teresasue Online Community Member Posts: 16 Connected

    @Kimi87 Hi there just looking at the entry again on bank statement it actually says HMRC DIR TAX PYTS does this mean anything to you please. Tried Googling it

    Teresa

  • onmylonesome
    onmylonesome Online Community Member Posts: 310 Empowering
    edited November 22

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  • teresasue
    teresasue Online Community Member Posts: 16 Connected

    @onmylonesome

    Hi there I'm a pensioner and an appointee for my son. Sorry I don't understand any of that do sorry

    Teresa

  • teresasue
    teresasue Online Community Member Posts: 16 Connected

    @Kimi87 Hi there just to say I did contact HMRC like you suggested and yes it was a small tax refund of £115.19. it was owed to him when they checked back or something when benefits or accounts are closed I think she said. Possibly due to him closing the ESA claim when he migrated to UC? Anyway it was all correct

    My question is do I have to tell UC please

    Thank you

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 7,931 Championing

    You should probably tell UC yes, via a Journal note (using the payment option).

    As it's a small amount and well under the amount your son can "earn" due to having a work allowance on his claim (from receiving LCWRA element) then it shouldn't reduce his payment.

  • teresasue
    teresasue Online Community Member Posts: 16 Connected

    Thank you

  • teresasue
    teresasue Online Community Member Posts: 16 Connected

    @Kimi87 Thank you