Motability drops luxury cars

Fuzzy200
Fuzzy200 Online Community Member Posts: 49 Empowering

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  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,078 Championing

    While I never normally agree with any decision our government makes, I do believe you shouldnt be able to get luxery or expensive cars on motorbility (Unless there are exceptional circumstances for instance your condition only means a certain vehicle is suitable)

    But currently I do see motorbility does get abused alot, which in turn ruins it for genuine parties.

  • onmylonesome
    onmylonesome Online Community Member Posts: 245 Empowering
  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,992 Championing
    edited November 25

    This depends on what their definition of LUXURY car means ?

    If it means "the automatic version" - which tends to mean the higher spec version of a car - then NO.

    Because many disabled drivers (myself included) have switched to automatics from manuals from necessity - and this will cut down our choice of cars dramatically.

    OK Lexus, Merc, Audi, BMW and AlfaRomeo have been removed - but Volvo is still available !!

  • edithluna
    edithluna Online Community Member Posts: 7 Listener

    yes it would be good to have that broken down….see what this actually means in terms of what they class as a luxury.

  • edithluna
    edithluna Online Community Member Posts: 7 Listener

    I found this from motility. Sone of it seems fair enough. They’ve cut convertibles which is reasonable.
    But they want people to use British cars which is a nice idea but when you’re looking for a car as a disabled driver, the nationality of a car is the last of your priorities!! seems like they’re using disabled drivers to boost their economic rhetoric which is pretty shameful!
    https://news.motability.co.uk/scheme-news/updates-to-the-cars-available-on-the-motability-scheme/

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,992 Championing
    edited November 25

    British cars - doesn't leave many options - does it ?

    Mini Coopers - hardly a disabled friendly car - can't even get a folded up wheelchair in one

    Nissan Juke / Qashqai

    Suzuki Swace

    Toyota Auris, Auris Hybrid and Avensis

    And that's it - of "normal" cars !

    Apart from Ariel Atoms, Lotus etc and such and of course Rolls Royce !!

  • edithluna
    edithluna Online Community Member Posts: 7 Listener

    it says- You may have seen we announced yesterday an ambitious new commitment: from 2035, half of all vehicles leased through the Scheme will be British built.

    You may have noticed that we’ve taken cars from brands such as Alfa Romeo, Audi, There’s still plenty of choice 

    You’ll still find a wide range of cars to suit different needs and budgets: 

    • More than 840 vehicles from around 30 different manufacturers 
    • Around 40 vehicles with no Advance Payment and almost 100 with an Advance Payment under £500 
    • The same choice of larger 7 seater cars, available from 10 different manufacturers   

    We’ll keep reviewing the range to make sure it continues to meet our disabled customers’ needs and represents the best value we can offer. 

    ….There does seem to be a decent amount of choices there still I think.

  • Anhedonia
    Anhedonia Online Community Member Posts: 30 Connected

    I'm not sure I understand the issue with there being luxury cars available to motability users.

    I don't think I even understand how it can be claimed that people can abuse Motability. You only qualify if you meet the PIP criteria, and then your money is used towards the car. So anyone saying they shouldn't have a Motability car, sounds like they're saying they shouldn't qualify for mobility PIP.

    Why should we not get a choice of car because we're disabled? People forget it's the claimants; money and they should get to choose how they use it.

    It sounds like soon enough we'll be able to identify those using Motability cars by what type of car a person drives, which is dangerous in itself and highlights a person as disabled and vulnerable.

  • Stellar
    Stellar Online Community Member Posts: 354 Pioneering

    Motability is obviously changing this policy purely because of the ableist moral panic neoliberal politicians and media rags have perpetrated towards them for months. Anyone who believes otherwise is clearly not paying attention.

    The fact of the matter is the design of some of the "luxury" cars have vital accessibility needs that are almost impossible to find on other vehicles, most notably their height. Because many disabled people cannot get in and out of low level cars independently.

    There won't be any exemptions, and if there are, they'll be so full of holes, they'll be almost impossible to utilise. Neoliberal slaves to capital (like Rachel Reeves) and related eugenicists alike won't permit it. They would rather disabled people not exist.

    Also the 2nd paragraph is a classic example of the mental gymnastics government ministers and the ableist public alike use to justify cuts to disability benefits.

  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,078 Championing

    Where I said this:

    "But currently I do see motorbility does get abused alot, which in turn ruins it for genuine parties."

    It wasn't to fuel abilism or to agree with any government. Just simply I have personally seen motorbility being abused. I know a few people who abuse it. One person I know rents their motorbility car to someone for a few months when they can't use it. Also I have known people and instances whereby people only apply for PIP just for the motorbility element so they can get a new car.

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member Posts: 271 Empowering

    I don't even drive, But absolutely sick of healthy people spreading their hateful dross I popped on to two social media sites to edit and make some posts for my radio station (don't have personal social media atm) and on both the first thing that popped up was some vile rodent banging on about the disabled and motability.

    The first "delight" suggested all those with a motorbility car should have scrounger painted on it, in which recovery in the bin replied with a word I'm not fond of but fits them well (although I think answering them is unwise)

    on the other some other delight suggested blowing the cars up.

    I am now going to send an email to the big players in government, making it clear they are to blame for this along with their msm friends

    convincing clowns into blaming our community for their own problems, it's got to stop.

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 7,728 Championing

    PIP fraud is so low that statistically it's considered to be non existent.

    Any Motability fraud should be reported to Motability.

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 3,883 Championing

    An automatic transmission is not a definition of a luxury car, don't worry.

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 3,883 Championing
    edited November 25

    British cars? What, like a Morris Marina? 😉

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 3,883 Championing
    edited November 25

    Where does the discredited practice of eugenics come into a discussion about Motability vehicles?

  • rubin16
    rubin16 Scope Member Posts: 1,078 Championing

    I couldn't even report them as one is my nans friend, and then the other is family.

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 3,883 Championing
    edited November 25

    A neighbour of mine gets out his Motability car like greased lightning. It shouldn't irk me but it does.