Autumn statement 2025: How the budget will affect disabled people

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  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 4,019 Championing

    It seems to me these days, that many people know all about their 'rights', but little of their responsibilities.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 1,254 Championing
  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 4,019 Championing

    And do you think Reform or what's left of the tories will "leave us alone"?

    No government can be seen to be sitting on the sidelines as the numbers in receipt of state benefits continues to rise.

    Will they hope to fob the public off with meaningless sound-bites, or will they actually offer some real and practical help?

  • Trevor_PIP
    Trevor_PIP Online Community Member Posts: 748 Pioneering
    edited December 1

    It looks to be young people. They can't leave it because the Benefit cost to the country is unsustainable. Have seen the latest numbers from the DWP? Nearly 8m on UC alone, up from 5.3m in 2022. PIP at 3.8m, up from 2m in 2020. That is just two benefits, what about ESA and DLA? The numbers are increasing too. PIP at an all time high for applications and awards per month. Totally unaffordable and every political party has plans to reform. You can't put the taxes up on working people anymore, they have had enough. I've lived a long time and I have never seen numbers on benefits anywhere near this high currently - ever. Hopefully disabled won't be targeted. There are a lot of youngsters on benefits because you get more on the sick than working on the national living wage. It has been like this for years and has been proved by a professional organisation working on behalf of the government. I have read it. It's been on SKY news too they ran a programme on young people in a town with high unemployment and the youngsters stated they get paid more on the sick. They talked to a few that were on PIP too... They get in a rut and never get off benefits.

    You asked and that is my thoughts....

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,717 Championing

    @Trevor_PIP

    I hear what you are saying about the numbers and the system feeling stretched. I’m just wondering though, when we talk about it being “unsustainable” or that too many people are on benefits, how do we decide who should get support? Where do you think the line is between those who need help and those who don’t?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,461 Championing

    Ps Try not to worry got a year until pip report they will go on a mad one all distraction from themselves and reeves misinformation try not to watch news it will be to triggering you have copd and many ailments that wont get better so don't worry we know they will be shouting from rooftops welfare welfare reforms I understand it does need reforming lets see

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 8,461 Championing

    I think thier go ahead with cutting benefits for young people its was obvious this would happen they played a blinder keep backbenchers happy and give themselves more time in power my mps stopped replying to me

  • Maggie37
    Maggie37 Online Community Member Posts: 79 Empowering

    I just can’t watch Starmer again bashing the disabled.. does he realise that some of us worked for decades before disability, that we paid taxes and mortgages etc?? Yes young people need help, anyone who has never worked or been to college / apprenticeship needs help.
    Yet they sporadically forget the state of available mental health services in the country or waiting lists for joint replacement etc. Jobs have to be real and meaningful for young people or they won’t stay in work. The cynic in me thinks they’ll target family support for the 18-25 year olds? If Mum and Dad have to pay for their kids because benefits stop then those kids may have no alternative but to join an apprenticeship scheme or get a job pronto. These kids may even find themselves homeless?I just hope there is proper diagnosis of severity of disability and ongoing treatment available. I don’t see that in place at the moment😞

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member Posts: 397 Empowering

    I've skimmed through a few articles removing paywalls, they all say similar a combination of what we already know and specifically mentioning the young and Milburn review, seems their continuous obsession with the under 22s will not abate and they'll pay for the child caps removal.

  • Trevor_PIP
    Trevor_PIP Online Community Member Posts: 748 Pioneering

    That is the dilemma! I have read if the youngsters aren't in college or work, they have to attend a meeting. Additionally, a member that seems to have left states in the green paper you will need to work with a work coach to keep your benefits.

    In the bigger picture, face to face appointments are starting again, some people need to be seen and assessed. A lot got benefits on a phone call COVID time fast tracked. I was assessed at my house twice by an assessment company.... Can you do this? Can you do that? Can you try and do this please, please get up from the seat etc etc. These face to face have stopped too and need to start again.

    How they will decide who stays on and who doesn't I don't know.

    The benefit bill is heading to cost £100bn a year, that is colossal and according to all political parties unaffordable!

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 3,067 Championing

    I do wonder whether they've factored in the estimated c £24.1 billion in unclaimed benefits in that £100 billion 'total'. That black hole could grow exponentially.

  • Trevor_PIP
    Trevor_PIP Online Community Member Posts: 748 Pioneering

    I don't know, I just have a read from time to time, but the information I quote is from reliable sources.

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 314 Pioneering

    I don’t know what your sources or what exactly are you talking about out.

    But they are not accurate:


    Welfare spending breakdown (2024/25)

    then you also have this breakdown:

    MTotal welfare spending in Britain in 2025-26 is estimated to be 

    10.8 per cent of GDP

    . That's just 0.8 per cent of GDP higher than in 2007-08, and spending has actually fallen fallen by 1.2 per cent of GDP since 2012-13

    All welfare that includes pensions.

    To put into context with other European advanced economies. 10.8% GDP is what other countries spend on their pensions alone and some countries spend more than that.

    https://www.counterfire.org/article/uk-the-make-or-break-budget/#:~:text=Total%20welfare%20spending%20in%20Britain,of%20GDP%20since%202012%2D13.

    so, stop parroting the far right

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 3,067 Championing

    I'm sure it is 🫠😊. I'm just glad I'm not a politician having to deal with it all !

  • Trevor_PIP
    Trevor_PIP Online Community Member Posts: 748 Pioneering

    My figures don't include the state pension for a start. There will always be some differences in figures from different organisations. Your figures are quoting it is already over £100bn. The Europeans have got back to economic levels prior to COVID we haven't. I am not a parrot by the way so keep it pleasant. We will see if the country can afford the current benefit bill when the reforms start won't we and they are coming as you well know....

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 4,019 Championing

    Face to face assessment only, exemptions looked at on a case-by-case basis. I can't see how one can be assessed over the phone, especially as a new claimant.

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 314 Pioneering

    ”The Europeans have got back to economic levels prior to COVID we haven't.”

    What economic levels? I really don’t understand what are you talking about nor where you get your figures from.

    It’s clear from what I quoted and posted the link for my source:

    Total welfare spending in Britain in 2025-26 is estimated to be 

    10.8 per cent of GDP

    . That's just 0.8 per cent of GDP higher than in 2007-08, and spending has actually fallen fallen by 1.2 per cent of GDP since 2012-13

    That the welfare bill is not what the media is portraying it to be. But keep following the parrot.

    good luck mate with your far right discourse.

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 4,019 Championing

    It is 'far right' to question millions of young people being too disabled to work?

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 314 Pioneering

    hello, hello, we have just gone through a pandemic. With a disease that no one understands.

    Millions dead and more millions left disabled across the world.

    And the media are ignoring that.

    Look into Covid and long covid and what damages it can do to you. Once you do we can have this discussion again.

    The fact that you chose to believe that young people aren’t working cause they are lazy doesn’t speak very well of yourself.

  • onmylonesome
    onmylonesome Online Community Member Posts: 258 Empowering

    Another thread turning into a political argument…..yawnnnnnnn