Autumn statement 2025: How the budget will affect disabled people

245

Comments

  • Trevor_PIP
    Trevor_PIP Online Community Member Posts: 1,224 Championing

    That is the dilemma! I have read if the youngsters aren't in college or work, they have to attend a meeting. Additionally, a member that seems to have left states in the green paper you will need to work with a work coach to keep your benefits.

    In the bigger picture, face to face appointments are starting again, some people need to be seen and assessed. A lot got benefits on a phone call COVID time fast tracked. I was assessed at my house twice by an assessment company.... Can you do this? Can you do that? Can you try and do this please, please get up from the seat etc etc. These face to face have stopped too and need to start again.

    How they will decide who stays on and who doesn't I don't know.

    The benefit bill is heading to cost £100bn a year, that is colossal and according to all political parties unaffordable!

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 3,805 Championing

    I do wonder whether they've factored in the estimated c £24.1 billion in unclaimed benefits in that £100 billion 'total'. That black hole could grow exponentially.

  • Trevor_PIP
    Trevor_PIP Online Community Member Posts: 1,224 Championing

    I don't know, I just have a read from time to time, but the information I quote is from reliable sources.

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 353 Trailblazing

    I don’t know what your sources or what exactly are you talking about out.

    But they are not accurate:


    Welfare spending breakdown (2024/25)

    then you also have this breakdown:

    MTotal welfare spending in Britain in 2025-26 is estimated to be 

    10.8 per cent of GDP

    . That's just 0.8 per cent of GDP higher than in 2007-08, and spending has actually fallen fallen by 1.2 per cent of GDP since 2012-13

    All welfare that includes pensions.

    To put into context with other European advanced economies. 10.8% GDP is what other countries spend on their pensions alone and some countries spend more than that.

    https://www.counterfire.org/article/uk-the-make-or-break-budget/#:~:text=Total%20welfare%20spending%20in%20Britain,of%20GDP%20since%202012%2D13.

    so, stop parroting the far right

  • Santosha12
    Santosha12 Online Community Member Posts: 3,805 Championing

    I'm sure it is 🫠😊. I'm just glad I'm not a politician having to deal with it all !

  • Trevor_PIP
    Trevor_PIP Online Community Member Posts: 1,224 Championing

    My figures don't include the state pension for a start. There will always be some differences in figures from different organisations. Your figures are quoting it is already over £100bn. The Europeans have got back to economic levels prior to COVID we haven't. I am not a parrot by the way so keep it pleasant. We will see if the country can afford the current benefit bill when the reforms start won't we and they are coming as you well know....

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 353 Trailblazing

    ”The Europeans have got back to economic levels prior to COVID we haven't.”

    What economic levels? I really don’t understand what are you talking about nor where you get your figures from.

    It’s clear from what I quoted and posted the link for my source:

    Total welfare spending in Britain in 2025-26 is estimated to be 

    10.8 per cent of GDP

    . That's just 0.8 per cent of GDP higher than in 2007-08, and spending has actually fallen fallen by 1.2 per cent of GDP since 2012-13

    That the welfare bill is not what the media is portraying it to be. But keep following the parrot.

    good luck mate with your far right discourse.

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 353 Trailblazing

    hello, hello, we have just gone through a pandemic. With a disease that no one understands.

    Millions dead and more millions left disabled across the world.

    And the media are ignoring that.

    Look into Covid and long covid and what damages it can do to you. Once you do we can have this discussion again.

    The fact that you chose to believe that young people aren’t working cause they are lazy doesn’t speak very well of yourself.

  • onmylonesome
    onmylonesome Online Community Member Posts: 642 Empowering

    Another thread turning into a political argument…..yawnnnnnnn

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 353 Trailblazing

    i didn’t call anyone a parrot

    Check your glasses mate

  • Community_Scope
    Community_Scope Posts: 2,179 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hello everyone,

    We want this discussion to continue, but we’re concerned that things are becoming quite tense and could easily escalate.

    Please remember that all discussions on Scope’s online community should remain civil, supportive, and safe.

    We will continue to closely monitor this discussion, but if it escalates further, we may choose to pause, close, or even hide the discussion.

    For more information, please read our online community house rules.

  • Trevor_PIP
    Trevor_PIP Online Community Member Posts: 1,224 Championing

    You have called me a government parrot previously and you are quoting it now. My figures are slightly different, probably only looking at ill health benefits. No matter, it is unaffordable currently and we will have to accept changes. People want the funds going to the NHS not to youngsters that are on the sick because they get more money. Example - LCWRA being removed from 22 years olds and younger!

    Europeans have got back to economic levels prior to covid, people back to work and economics growing. UK hasn't as numbers on the sick and not working since covid has increased dramatically, get the picture?

  • Trevor_PIP
    Trevor_PIP Online Community Member Posts: 1,224 Championing

    I don't think I have caused an issue, in fact I am a moderator on another forum. I will stop discussing the issues with the Benefit system as it is an emotive issue. I was only trying to put forward reasons, I have investigated, for the so called reforms.

  • Trevor_PIP
    Trevor_PIP Online Community Member Posts: 1,224 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,635 Championing

    I spent my teenage years in care ive seen what mental health does to young people most cutoff from families no support open to all sorts of abuse mentally and physically Ive known of many many people in my younger years who ended thier lifes I was a youth worker desperately trying to help young girls from the streets its no joke most these people including myself wasn't given warmth love care we was feral having to fight to survive no education no skills damaged goods its not easy mental health especially when your younger its hell on earth all doors closed on you no one to tell you it will be ok judged by the world and now those people might not even have a bed for the night if they stop this I look back on my younger self and think how did I make it and I believe things are alot harder now

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,635 Championing
    edited December 2025

    Those who judge from above Those youngsters could be suffering day in day out its like throwing someone under the bus maybe people agree until it comes to thier doorstep

  • Trevor_PIP
    Trevor_PIP Online Community Member Posts: 1,224 Championing

    I am not judging anybody, it's a known fact! There is also no harm in reassessing these youngsters and that is what is planned, if they are suffering they won't lose their benefits. If they are deemed able to work they will have to find a job. If you are on benefits the DWP are in their rights to have a check up from time to time.

  • alexroda
    alexroda Online Community Member Posts: 353 Trailblazing

    how is it not affordable when the expenditure of the welfare bill has decreased if we take into account GDP, which is what matters.

    The UK is the fastest growing economy if you compare to all European nations in the last few years.

    All over Europe are having similar issues with higher numbers of people being off sick. the papers here don’t tend to report it, I wonder why?

    scapegoating the young, another message from the far right, blimey.

    You are just repeating the numbers and the messages from the far right. Got it?

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Online Community Member Posts: 9,635 Championing

    Id like to think they would do the right thing but they are so dishonest and people will suffer i understand ofcourse have to have assessments but understand what clause anyway could go on and on

  • Trevor_PIP
    Trevor_PIP Online Community Member Posts: 1,224 Championing
    edited December 2025

    How has it decreased, look at the increases in numbers. It's millions per benefit in just a few years..... There are other areas where the money can go, NHS, mental health support, infrastructure etc.

    The Accounts Clerk Reeves has tanked the economy.... Europeans are back to where they were pre covid. Well written about. May have dropped a bit with Ukraine war.

    The young issues are well known, it is nothing new and investigated.

    I am not quoting any far right, I only read or investigate information from professional organisations.

    Why are there going to be reforms if I am wrong and you are right?

    I am not replying anymore, we are not going to agree. You are entitled to your opinion as I am mine!