Autumn statement 2025: How the budget will affect disabled people
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Putting words in my mouth, and calling another member a 'parrot'? Good afternoon to you.
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i didn’t call anyone a parrot
Check your glasses mate
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You have called me a government parrot previously and you are quoting it now. My figures are slightly different, probably only looking at ill health benefits. No matter, it is unaffordable currently and we will have to accept changes. People want the funds going to the NHS not to youngsters that are on the sick because they get more money. Example - LCWRA being removed from 22 years olds and younger!
Europeans have got back to economic levels prior to covid, people back to work and economics growing. UK hasn't as numbers on the sick and not working since covid has increased dramatically, get the picture?
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I don't think I have caused an issue, in fact I am a moderator on another forum. I will stop discussing the issues with the Benefit system as it is an emotive issue. I was only trying to put forward reasons, I have investigated, for the so called reforms.
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Thank you.
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I spent my teenage years in care ive seen what mental health does to young people most cutoff from families no support open to all sorts of abuse mentally and physically Ive known of many many people in my younger years who ended thier lifes I was a youth worker desperately trying to help young girls from the streets its no joke most these people including myself wasn't given warmth love care we was feral having to fight to survive no education no skills damaged goods its not easy mental health especially when your younger its hell on earth all doors closed on you no one to tell you it will be ok judged by the world and now those people might not even have a bed for the night if they stop this I look back on my younger self and think how did I make it and I believe things are alot harder now
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Those who judge from above Those youngsters could be suffering day in day out its like throwing someone under the bus maybe people agree until it comes to thier doorstep
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I am not judging anybody, it's a known fact! There is also no harm in reassessing these youngsters and that is what is planned, if they are suffering they won't lose their benefits. If they are deemed able to work they will have to find a job. If you are on benefits the DWP are in their rights to have a check up from time to time.
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how is it not affordable when the expenditure of the welfare bill has decreased if we take into account GDP, which is what matters.
The UK is the fastest growing economy if you compare to all European nations in the last few years.
All over Europe are having similar issues with higher numbers of people being off sick. the papers here don’t tend to report it, I wonder why?
scapegoating the young, another message from the far right, blimey.
You are just repeating the numbers and the messages from the far right. Got it?
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Id like to think they would do the right thing but they are so dishonest and people will suffer i understand ofcourse have to have assessments but understand what clause anyway could go on and on
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How has it decreased, look at the increases in numbers. It's millions per benefit in just a few years..... There are other areas where the money can go, NHS, mental health support, infrastructure etc.
The Accounts Clerk Reeves has tanked the economy.... Europeans are back to where they were pre covid. Well written about. May have dropped a bit with Ukraine war.
The young issues are well known, it is nothing new and investigated.
I am not quoting any far right, I only read or investigate information from professional organisations.
Why are there going to be reforms if I am wrong and you are right?
I am not replying anymore, we are not going to agree. You are entitled to your opinion as I am mine!
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The government has an obsession with the disabled and particularly the young disabled.
a shame it doesn't take such an obsessive interest in MPs who take 4 months a year off during non sitting periods, Claim ridiculous things on expenses and accidentally forget how many homes they own.
Although some claimants may have taken advantage of the covid years to get an award, and I'm sure there are a few,I really don't think it's typical and I hope they have the common sense to not send those pre pandemic claimants again, I had one in 2021 during the pandemic so they were still happening
But wasting money reassessing people who never have or will improve simply because they haven't put them in scc is expanding the phantom black hole further.
They also have a dangerous attitude by claiming some conditions are mild which really aren't in some people.
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just watched a video from sky news analysing wether KS and RR misled the country regarding the black hole. IMO, they did.
Funny thing is that the journalist himself misleads during his presentation to the audience regarding welfare u turn over the summer and how it did affect the headroom left.
And they also specifically had a bar with spending, which covered all spending, but highlighted the word welfare in there.
Journalists quietly sending out their owners message
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I’ve looked at the DWP figures and the picture is a bit different from how it often comes across in the media.
Under 22s are only a small share of sickness benefit claimants, less than 10 per cent. For example, about 1 per cent of PIP claimants are aged 16–19 and around 6–7 per cent are 20–24. Most claimants are in their 30s, 40s and 50s.
So while the overall numbers are high and rising, it is not mainly youngsters driving that increase. The bigger issue for under 22s tends to be unemployment and lack of opportunities, rather than sickness claims. Job vacancies are currently around 723,000, well down from the peaks of 2022, and youth unemployment is over 15 per cent. Even with training or apprenticeships, many struggle to find paid work at the end.
With the retirement age being pushed up, older workers are staying in jobs longer than they would have in the past. That means fewer openings for young people starting out. On top of that, jobs are unevenly spread, with far more available in big cities than in smaller towns and villages. Taken together, it shows there are several factors shaping the situation beyond benefits alone.
So while reforming assessments for young people with disabilities might be one part of the picture, the bigger challenge is making sure there are enough jobs and opportunities for young people in the first place.
If anyone wants to see the detailed breakdowns, they’re published on the DWP’s Stat‑Xplore site here. https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=4f39c108944bc5eba77254ca6d62458637c22efa52b3bed41ef461083a787d50JmltdHM9MTc2NDYzMzYwMA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=4&fclid=11945dd8-89ab-6099-1625-4b6e88b96106&psq=dwp+stat%e2%80%91xplore+%e2%80%93+personal+independence+payment+statistics&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly9zdGF0LXhwbG9yZS5kd3AuZ292LnVrL3dlYmFwaS9qc2YvbG9naW4ueGh0bWw
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Thank you. To be fair I did not say the youngsters are driving up the figures, I have looked at the same information you have prior. The youngsters were the ones mentioned in the original posters attachment, that is why I have discussed them. I know what goes on in my own town, everything I post is fact. It is known by professional organisations and the government they get more money being on the sick than working on the National basic wage. Plenty of opportunities in my area but there are youngsters that flunk interviews to remain on UC and play the system. I have posted actual examples on this forum. A friend had a job at a car rental station, he left and it took 2 years to get a replacement. A lot applied and were interviewed but when contacted for the job - excuses! Just going through the UC procedure of looking for a job... It was the Managers wife's Father that took the job in the end - a family member....
In my town, the employees are leaving at 55 on early retirement, I did, it has gathered pace and not just one company. I think it is an issue countrywide as the Conseratives wanted us to go back to work.. This is fact.
I have decided to not rep!y to this thread but since it was you I have.
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From the rightsnet site
Lies, damned lies and the TelegraphThe Telegraph posted CSJ figures using an outrageously false comparison of 2 cases (The Express did a similar piece) . It claimed a family on benefits were better off by £18k than a working household when the real figure, after I made the circumstances the same, was £16k worse off. The details at
https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/21603/#100186
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anyone who is interested in how the number of disabled people have risen since the pandemic and how much the UK spends in disability and ill health related benefits in compare to other countries should look into this doc.
Lots of interesting data, however some missing.
But one point that sticks out is the percentage of disability increase since the pandemic in some European countries, page 26.
Interestingly, Sweden that didn’t have a lockdown has nearly doubled their number of people with a disability.
Also, the UK was one of the last countries to enter into lockdown.
All but one country have increased their disabled community.
https://ifs.org.uk/sites/default/files/2025-04/Health-related-benefit-claims-post-pandemic_3_1.pdf1 -
and the UK was one of the first country to get rid of lockdown and had many ins and outs of lockdowns
Not as many people might die but they still developed a disability.And the media choose to ignore Covid as it’s not an issue.
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