Will UC be linked to PIP for existing claimants?
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HelloThe link is saying that the wca will linked with pip after 2028 in timms review review is this right?Also if they scrapped after 2028 for lcwra but how will existing ppeople transition protection work if transition protection finishes what will happen after that will it have pip end date if transition finishes ?
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The WCA is being removed in 2028. After that, the newly redesigned PIP style assessment will be the one that decides both PIP and whether someone gets the disability element of Universal Credit.
The whole PIP assessment is being redesigned so it can cover both benefits in one assessment. These are the only details available at this time. Nothing further is known.
The Timms Review is expected in autumn this year. Until that report is released, there is no way to know what the new assessment will involve or what rules will apply to it.
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Nobody knows how transitional protection will work yet because the rules for the new assessment have not been written.
The only confirmed point is that the WCA will end in 2028 and the redesigned PIP style assessment will replace it for both PIP and the UC disability element. Nothing has been published about how existing LCWRA claimants will move across or what happens after transitional protection ends.
There is no confirmed information about assessment rules, award structures, review processes, or end dates.
The Timms Review is expected in autumn this year. Until it is released, nobody will know what the new assessment will involve or what rules will apply to it.
It is understandable that people are worried, but no further details exist yet. At present, all existing claimants are protected.
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I am saying your 100% sure wca will scrapped after 2028 .At this moment the pip is hard to get but will they do easier for uc claimant if they do pip and uc together because pip and uc health element are different .If people claim for pip why will they need to apply for uc if uc and pip becomes same also i have another person saying is that if anyone working and get and Administrative Earnings Threshold which is £1437 a month then you dont need to go to see workcoach every week how will this ,Thanks
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Hi, I am so mad about the government saying oh we are going to stop fraud by checking disabled people's account and see if they DARE to spend money on something nice here and there. Isn't the government's responsibility to give support for people who only deserve it and in need? I mean I had to send a lot of medical documents, and still have to every 2 yearly to DWP to receive PIP. Just had mine done recently again. I am also recipient of UC Standard+LCWR so not sure how someone could commit fraud when have to prove everything.
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My main point to know is that if they scrap wca and do uc it with pip then why the hell people need to apply for universal credit health element what will be the point of claiming uc. At this moment we know that lcwra are for not working people and support if you have no money coming there two seperate lcwra and pip but i am not understanding how will this work if they scrap wca and doing with pip if people need to have daily living then it will same for uc as pip ?
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At present, it is confirmed that the WCA is planned to be scrapped in 2028 After that, the PIP assessment will be the one test that decides both PIP and the UC health element, so people won’t have to go through two separate assessments anymore.
The change is simply this, after 2028, anyone who needs the UC health element will be assessed under the PIP daily living rules instead of doing a Work Capability Assessment. In other words, you would need a PIP daily living award to qualify for the UC health element. The system will use one assessment instead of two.
We won’t know the full details of what the new PIP/UC health element assessment will involve until the Timms Review is published in the autumn.
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Do you mean that anyone to apply for pip they will have to go through uc to claim for pip not like at this moment two seprate bebefit but uc is means tested benefit and uc pay for people who has problem for working how will they do that and how can people survive by doing hard by explainng all this **** idea about daily living and to score more points but i can also see that the they have not confirm that they will do scrap wca from this link.https://www.scope.org.uk/news-and-stories/government-launches-a-review-into-personal-independence-payment?_ga=2.89276955.1209082940.1768207646-1508961753.1766391825&_gac=1.215613859.1767076824.EAIaIQobChMImrOsi9rkkQMVKpVQBh2b2RJFEAAYASAAEgJmYvD_BwE?
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You said it confirmed that wca will be scrapped after 2028 but that what they tryed to do in green paper but the green paper does not exisist anymore please let me know?
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The link you posted is only about the PIP review. It explains that the government is looking again at how PIP works, but it does not mention the Work Capability Assessment or confirm anything about the WCA ending.
The Green Paper people sometimes refer to was the 2021 Health and Disability Green Paper. It was only a consultation and never became law. None of its ideas were taken forward, and it has no effect on current policy.
The decision to remove the Work Capability Assessment did not come from that Green Paper. It was announced separately by the government in 2023, long after the Green Paper had been dropped.
PIP and UC will still be separate benefits, but after 2028 it appears that people will need a PIP daily living award to qualify for the UC health element. That is simply how things look based on the information released so far.
Right now the only confirmed point is that the WCA is planned to end in 2028, and a redesigned PIP style assessment will be used for both PIP and the UC health element. The detailed rules will not be known until the Timms Review is published later this year.
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No no the link i sent it does says about uc with pip aswell goverment is not sure weather the want to scrap wca or not it does say that .
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I am thinking is that after wca scrapped in 2028 and use uc and pip together will they do any thing to support for people who lose in pip ?
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I am still waiting to know is 100 percent sure the wca will be scrapped after 2028 because i can see in the link they saying they will do that or not it will decided on timms review ? I am thinking is that after wca scrapped in 2028 and use uc and pip together will they do any thing to support for people who lose in pip ?
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I am still waiting to know is 100 percent sure the wca will be scrapped after 2028 because i can see in the link they saying they will do that or not it will decided on timms review ? I am thinking is that after wca scrapped in 2028 and use uc and pip together will they do any thing to support for people who lose in pip also if they do pip and uc together will uc still means tested how will this work out ?
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Nobody can confirm anything 100% yet.
The 2023 Budget set out the intention to remove the WCA in the next Parliament, and that is still the government’s stated aim. However, the final system won’t be known until the full policy and legislation are published.
It’s also important to be clear that the Timms Review is not deciding whether the WCA is removed. That decision was already announced in 2023. The review is only looking at how future health assessments should work, what the replacement should look like, and what safeguards are needed.
The fact that they are still pressing ahead with the Timms Review suggests this is still the direction of travel. Even so, nothing is guaranteed until the government releases the final design. Governments can and do change course, so at this stage nobody can say for certain exactly how things will look after 2028.
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I need to know will all mps want to scrap wca or there will they not like to this wca to be scrapped ? Thanks
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I need to know will all mps want to scrap wca or there will they not like to this wca to be scrapped and is the timms review aim to make easier for uc to together with pip or is it that there aim to make harder to get uc with pip?? Thanks
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MW123 has explained it quite clearly above.
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No MW123 tells me two different story and said that goverment confirmed they want to scrap wca but then i sent link to MW123 in that link says that goverment are still looking to do weather scrap wca or not,now your telling me that MW123 has explained it quite clearly above then shaw me proof where mw123 says about mps when sent question about mps where is the reply on mps ?
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