Will UC be linked to PIP for existing claimants?

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  • michael57
    michael57 Online Community Member Posts: 1,938 Championing

    Compassion and understanding young man at least there not all over the place like some

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,890 Championing

    Regardless of the fact that you and your partner live in two separate properties, if you are in a relationship then UC will still assess both of your circumstances and incomes together. UC treats you as a couple for benefit purposes, even if you choose to live in different homes.

    If you make a claim, the property you live in would normally be treated as your main residence, and the other property is usually counted as capital, unless there are exceptional circumstances. If the equity in that second property is over £16,000, you generally would not be entitled to UC.

    Because the details really matter, the best thing you can do now is speak to Universal Credit directly, as they can look at your exact circumstances and they are the only people who can confirm whether you would be entitled to Universal Credit.

  • Biblioklept
    Biblioklept Online Community Member Posts: 569 Trailblazing

    I don't think this is correct @MW123, if you don't live together with your partner, even if you're married, your circumstances are separate for UC and it wouldn't be a joint claim ❤️

  • Rosie_Scope
    Rosie_Scope Posts: 7,610 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi all. I have removed some replies from this discussion. Please remember that we all communicate in different ways. Many members will have anxieties or communication differences that you may not understand. For the benefit of everyone, it's good to approach others with kindness and compassion. If for any reason you don't feel you can do this, move away from the discussion.

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  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Online Community Member Posts: 174 Empowering

    Rosie, He or She will come back with same question or they are asking for a friend time after time, the questions are all repeated, even after answers or advice is given. That's not anxiety in my opinion. You may want to ask him if he's a landlord because of how he/she word their questions.

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,890 Championing

    Thank you for that, @Biblioklept, you are correct. For UC purposes, a couple are only treated as a couple when they are viewed as living in the same household.

    I just wanted to add that when a couple are in a relationship but living in two separate homes owned by one partner, UC may still look at the circumstances to decide whether they are one household or genuinely living separately. It is not automatic either way. It is not an unusual arrangement in real life, but it can look a little more complex on paper, so UC sometimes asks a few extra questions to understand the set‑up properly.

    I am not suggesting that aseed is living in the other property, only that UC sometimes looks more closely at situations that do not fit their usual categories. I remember once reading about a case where a couple claimed separately and the DWP asked quite detailed personal questions to establish whether they were genuinely living apart or effectively one household across two properties. It showed that when an arrangement does not fit the usual pattern, the DWP may look a little more closely so they can apply the rules correctly.

    If a person owns a second property, UC will usually treat that as capital unless a specific disregard applies, even if a partner lives there. The home the claimant actually lives in is ignored, but equity in any other property can affect entitlement.

    That is why I suggested that asedd444 speak to UC directly, as they are the only ones who can look at the full circumstances and confirm whether he can claim UC.

  • ased444
    ased444 Online Community Member Posts: 209 Connected

    Hello

    I am not saying i have or not got second property i mean if i have second property can will i be able to get uc if i live in one property and if my family lives another property ?

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 4,444 Championing

    Can I get UC if I can rub my tummy and pat my head simultaneously? Asking for a friend.

  • ased444
    ased444 Online Community Member Posts: 209 Connected

    Hello

    I am trying to say that is if i have 2 property and if l live in one property and if any of my family lives at my second property permenantly will i get universal credit?

    If anyone on lcwra at this moment and after 2028 if uc and pip linked togther does existing lcwra people who is not on pip do they needs to score 4 point rule or is the 4 point rule being scraped last july 2025 for uc and pip? Thank you

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 4,444 Championing

    I would try them both on, then ask a friend for their opinion.

  • Kimi87
    Kimi87 Online Community Member Posts: 8,157 Championing

    You've had the same questions answered several times over.

    Asking again won't change the answers.

    Or do as suggested and contact a trained benefits advisor

    https://advicefinder.turn2us.org.uk

  • NeuroEve
    NeuroEve Online Community Member Posts: 124 Empowering

    is there any way the moderators can stop this post, it’s uncomfortable seeing people’s replies and the person posting repeatedly about pip and uc linking obviously isn’t understanding the replies.

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 4,444 Championing
    edited January 24
  • SwiftFox
    SwiftFox Online Community Member Posts: 174 Empowering
    edited January 24
  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,890 Championing

    You mention that this is a hypothetical scenario regarding owning a second property. It is important to note that if you are considering claiming Universal Credit and are thinking about purchasing a second property, the DWP will scrutinise the source of the funds used for that purchase.

    Regardless of who resides in that second property, because it is not your main residence, the burden of proof rests with you.

    If it is a partner living there (as referenced in your earlier comment), simply maintaining different postcodes does not automatically mean Universal Credit will treat you as living separately. They assess the relationship as a whole. You may wish to review Tribunal test cases on this point to understand how strictly the rules are applied.

    If it is family members residing there, the DWP will still need to conduct a thorough evaluation and ask detailed questions to determine whether the property qualifies for a specific capital exemption.

    Ultimately, you would need to provide legal or medical evidence to persuade the DWP to disregard the property’s value as capital.

    We cannot confirm your entitlement here, only a Universal Credit Decision Maker reviewing your specific documentation can give a definitive answer.

  • Community_Scope
    Community_Scope Posts: 2,093 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi everyone,

    As we have already stated, many members will have anxieties or communication differences that you may not understand. If for any reason you feel you are unable to be civil, please move away from the discussion.

    If you have concerns, please report these to an admin by using the 'Flag' function or sending a message to @Community_Scope.

    Thanks