Is Scope Disability Friendly anymore?
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That was one of my late mother’s favourite sayings.
In forums like this, we can’t rely on smiles or tone. Meaning exists in the text, and how we handle it is what defines the conversation. If all problems could be solved with a sweet slogan, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
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I feel that comments like this, "If all problems could be solved with a sweet slogan, we wouldn’t be having this conversation." are perhaps part of the issue.
Certainly I'm not saying that this is what you are doing or at all intending @MW123, it is purely the most recent example of what I'm trying to express. It can unintentionally come across as dismissive of another person's contribution and it would be understandable if they were to take it that way. I imagine if you had commented a sweet slogan and someone felt the need to 'correct' or show why it is wrong or not-valuable in this way, you may feel put out too.
Many of the issues I see come from these sorts of responses between people.
@OverlyAnxious said it best. As an outsider, it is clear often two people feel attacked when actually they have both just misunderstood one another. An impossible situation to resolve because it quietly escalates under the surface, viewing all future interactions through the same lens of the initial misunderstanding.
"I honestly don't know how the mods are meant to decide who is 'right' in those situations, and am glad that I don't have to make those decisions myself." As the kids would say 💯
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@Emilee thank you again for taking the time to respond so thoughtfully. I really do appreciate the care you are bringing to this.
There is one small but important detail I want to name, because it sits at the heart of why I replied the way I did. In the earlier exchange, my own words were quoted back to me with the line “smile and the whole world smiles with you.” I genuinely do appreciate the sentiment. It was one of my mum’s favourites and it still makes me smile. My point was not about rejecting the saying itself.
What I was trying to express is that, in that moment, the reply did not really engage with the substance of what I had raised. I had written about accessibility, safeguarding, and the culture we are shaping here, and having my words reflected back through a slogan felt like it sidestepped those concerns rather than meeting them. Not intentionally, but that is where the distinction between sentiment and engagement matters.
You raised the question of tone, and I am very open to reflecting on how my post came across. It would genuinely help me to hear how it landed for you, which parts felt sharp, which felt fair, and where you think the tone might have drifted. I would rather understand your reading than guess from my side.
At the same time, I think it is fair to acknowledge that not every disagreement is a misunderstanding. Sometimes people simply see things differently, and the work is to sit with that honestly without treating the person raising concerns as the source of the friction.
If you are willing, I would really value your perspective on how my post read to you.
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From the 1883 poem 'Solitude' that also says 'cry and you cry alone'. A nod, I think, to human nature where sharing happiness is positive/welcomed whereas sharing sadness is isolating.
I don't think it would be fair, or accurate, to say the forum is unfriendly, I think most have good intentions. Obviously political type of threads incur passion and emotion which is preferable than it becoming anodyne but a difficult path for moderators to tread I guess when deciding whether to close a thread.
Having seen though what at best is impatience with some users, or, at worst, belittling comments, would I feel able to share sad moments that I experience in life? No, I wouldn't; and that in itself is sad on a forum which should be inclusive, tolerant and kind. As @Catherine21 mentioned, for myself I'd protect my mental health and stay away.
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I got personally attacked, accused of things that just weren't true & told to back off from further commenting recently by someone who in another thread (which turned into something of an echo chamber) apparently encourages adult discussion, understanding different views and moving on if you disagree!
Normally people just occasionally dislike the answers I give so accuse me of working for [insert name of organisation that I'm trying to factually explain the rules they have]
Disagreement, dislike, being ignored that I can handle, but personal attacks are a step too far.
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It would genuinely help if I could reply too
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I wouldn't post on my saddest days either as I'd be unable to construct a sentence nor can I write a short essay by reply to anyone!
When members write 'scroll on' 'move on' 'use the ignore function' then have the gall to complain about rudeness, it doesn't sit well with other members. Opening a discussion with 'do not comment on my threads' is another example of negative attitudes and hypocrisy on the forum.
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We’ve been reading all the responses with interest and open ears, including yours. As I explained yesterday, no one is being prevented from replying; however, we can’t approve a message if we would then need to remove it. At the start of the discussion, we asked that comments avoid naming or criticising other members. If you’re happy to reframe your comments in a more general way, without referring to specific individuals, they would be very welcome here.
This isn’t the place for finger-pointing or assigning individual blame. If you have concerns about another member, we encourage you to report them in the usual way or alert us to the issue by email.
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That's strange, I still have mine. Maybe it's some kind of glitch?
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I would if I could see my post to correct has you say, but unfortunately it disappears when I've posted it Adrian. I didn't think I was being rude or unkind to anyone. But if you could email my comment then perhaps I could rephrase it.
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When phrases like “scroll on” or “use the ignore function” are pulled out of context, they can look abrupt. But they rarely appear out of nowhere.
By the time someone reaches that point, they’ve usually been navigating replies that feel dismissive, belittling, or simply relentless. In that situation, those phrases aren’t rudeness, they’re a boundary.
It helps to look at the whole shape of an interaction rather than isolating a single sentence. When someone has repeatedly felt unheard or spoken down to, eventually drawing a line isn’t hypocrisy, it’s a natural response.
And when the boundary itself becomes the focus, it can shift attention away from what led to it in the first place. That doesn’t support anyone involved, and it doesn’t move the conversation forward.
Context matters. Individual lines, separated from the exchanges around them, don’t give a fair or accurate picture of what actually happened.
If we want a forum that feels genuinely welcoming, we need to look at the full conversation, not just selected moments. Because ultimately, the goal should be a space where everyone feels respected and heard, and where no one feels the need to use an ignore function or ask others to scroll on in the first place.
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A copy has been sent to you @SwiftFox
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It's terrible how some people are towards other people on here, Catherine, I've seen a lot of people on here get treated badly when they haven't done anything to deserve it. It's best to just put the trouble makers on ignore.
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But people are being rude towards them when they haven't done anything to deserve it, so they're totally justified in defending themselves by being rude back and telling them to scroll on, they're not being hypocritical at all when they complain. The truly hypocritical behaviour comes from those who are rude in the first place and then play the victim when the person on the receiving end defends themselves or if someone stands up for them.
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What is obvious to one member is not always obvious to someone else.
When grievances are carried over from a previous thread it can be very difficult to keep track of what is going on.
While I accept we all set our own boundaries we cannot expect other members to know what those boundaries are.
Once a thread has been posted it is no longer in the ownership of the member that started it it belongs to the forum. Therefore telling another member not to comment on their threads is excluding them when they might have a very valid comment to make.
Unfortunately as with life there will be some members we like more than others but this should not mean we cannot engage with each other.
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Ok so you bring me into this again !! I wrote schroll on bevause every post i posted the same three people without fail commented disrespectfully at one peoint i was told i post rubbish cant find right words to explain and here again its happening all my posts got stopped and i felt like i had done something wrong when in reality i felt bullied now i wouldnt have wrote this of you didnt personally bring me into this again just prove my point really i didnt come looking for anyones posts it was constantly happening to me can you just leave me out of your experience on here its a big enough forum to bypass my posts Thankyou
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To answer the OP it's a shame that some people spoil it for the vast majority, but luckily there are a lot of nice people on here including myself who like to help and support others.
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My experience is different from what your expressing yes i understand once its posted it for the forum but for me personally its happened alot of sarcasm jokes dismissing my thoughts the lot and had got to the point that i would know that these three people would comment not in a kind manner id call it trolling and very upsetting i can go back on most posts and its apparent to see so i asked them to schroll on as it was obvi personally direcred at me not acceptable not on
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I tried i look again but it does pit you off big time thanks ross
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Hi @Catherine21 .
Thanks for sharing how this has been feeling for you. You’re absolutely right that unkindness isn’t acceptable here and our house rules are intended to keep everyone safe.
Just to gently add, phrases like “scroll on” or “move on” are used quite often on the forum, by lots of different members, and are not always about or posted by, any one specific person.
That doesn’t mean your feelings aren’t real, it’s understandable that it might feel personal, especially when there may have been past tensions. But sometimes things can feel directed even when they’re written or intended more generally, it can be hard for any of us to know intent.
In the same way you’re sharing how certain things have affected you, others may also be sharing how those phrases make them feel.
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