How do you know if you can claim?
I have a number of disabilities but have never claimed anything. How would I find out if I'm potentially able to claim PIP?
I work 32 hours a week from home, does that stop me from claiming any support?
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Hi @Mr_Shoes_Tied
Pip is not means tested so it doesn't matter how much your income is or if/how many hours you work. Pip is about how your disabilities affect your daily life and mobility and how much support you need in order to do them. The PIP test may be helpful to do to see if you would be eligible😊2 -
I'm stuck on the first question 😃
What is classed as a simple meal?
I life off instant noodles and crumpets / toast, do they count?
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Hi,
Toast shouldn't count.
Instant noodles might count if you heat them in a microwave. If you're just pouring boiling water on them from a kettle then they shouldn't count.
If you look at the PIP descriptors that can help determine what the guidelines are. But be aware much of it is guidelines rather than black and white law. Some places will tell you that a simple meal should consist of something like preparing fresh veg and pan frying fish but that isn't realistic in the modern world anyway.
Essentially the question is - can you use a cooker regularly? If no, can you use a microwave regularly? Do you need prompting or assistance to prepare your daily meals?
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Thank you @OverlyAnxious that's really useful.
So if I possibly physically could, but it would take me all day because I'd have to stop and clean repeatedly and usually take breaks because of dizziness and fatigue, so I just don't bother as it's too exhausting, would that be prompting or cannot cook?
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And can prompting be the answer even if I don't ever get prompted as I live alone? My prompting to eat is when I start seeing black spots from dizziness and realise maybe I'm hungry 🤣
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Hi @Mr_Shoes_Tied just thought I'd share this descriptors link in case it might be helpful when completing the form - Personal Independence Payment (PIP) points system 😊
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One of the quirks of PIP is that it's about the help you need, not necessarily the help you get!
So yes, you can be awarded the 'prompting' descriptor even if you live alone. However…providing evidence that you need prompting without another person to corroborate is the issue. I also live alone so I'm well aware of how difficult it is to get any evidence for PIP in this situation.
I'll break the other post down into two parts. The first part is that if it would take you twice as long as an average person to complete the task, then it is considered that you cannot complete the task in a 'timely manner'.
However…you will struggle to get evidence here. The assessor will almost certainly say you're choosing not to cook as a lifestyle choice unless you can provide evidence. Realistically, if you live alone, it will be very difficult to score the full 8 points for being 'unable to cook any meal' here.
From what you've written so far, I would be expecting 2 points for this descriptor. Therefore I would put more effort into other descriptors where you're likely to score more highly. Bear in mind this part is just my opinion though.
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That's been incredibly helpful @OverlyAnxious, thank you.
I have chronic fatigue syndrome, OCD, and potentially autism and ADHD (although diagnosed with acute anxiety disorder, social phobia and agoraphobia) as well as some other niggling health conditions that I can't get help for.
I'm confused about the communication options if you're able to help? I can understand things but can't convery myself in a way that seems to be understood. I a also can't do it reliably, I often am just unable to talk at all, I haven't heard the sound of my own voice in well over a year. What sort of option should I tick here?
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That's an interesting one. I haven't seen much about that descriptor for people who aren't either deaf or completely non-verbal.
I would say your symptoms better fit the 'mixing with people' question, and you are likely to score the full 8 points for that one.
If you haven't spoken to anyone or even yourself in the last year, but could previously speak and make yourself understood, at least for basic information, then perhaps one of the 'support' descriptors would be applicable for either 4 or 8 points. When we say basic information we mean something like "get out, there's a fire!".
Interestingly, we have quite similar symptoms, though I was still able to speak when I first got PIP. It's now been around 5 years since I had a conversation with anyone though. I'm not actually sure which box I'd tick if reviewed again!
It's also worth noting that most PIP assessments are done verbally, either over the phone, via video, or occasionally face to face. If you will be unable to speak at all for the assessment then you really need to explain that on the forms. If you will be able to speak for the assessment then that will make it difficult to score points for being unable to speak.
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Thank you again @OverlyAnxious. I've done the self test and it recommended 22 points for daily living and 12 for mobility, so does that mean I might be eligible?
How would I start a claim? Can it be done online?
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Yes, 8 points for a Standard award and 12 points for an Enhanced award. So even if you've overscored yourself a bit, you should still be entitled to at least some PIP based on those results.
PIP claims generally have to be started by telephone (don't get me started on that!). However there is also the option of doing it by post. In some areas they have now started allowing online applications, if you scroll to the bottom of this webpage you can check whether your area is included.
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Thank you @OverlyAnxious. That's me scarpered at the first hurdle, won't be able to call to start it!
Do you know what areas are allowing online PIP claims? No luck for my postcode yet.
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I'm not sure which areas allow online claims @Mr_Shoes_Tied. I put my postcode in and they're not offering it in my area either 😔
Are you unable to claim by phone?
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Well that's 3 for 3 post codes where it's not allowed yet… From what I've seen so far, it seems to be in large city areas, London, Liverpool, Manchester, etc.
Your options now are to have someone else call on your behalf if possible.
Or to post a letter to the DWP.
In both of these cases, it's just about starting the claim and providing your name and address. The actual health assessment forms get posted to you after that.
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