PIP assessment report and Decision makers conclusion

@Rosiesmum IAS complied with my Subject Access Request but didn't do it themselves. I had an initial email from what was then ATOS customer services saying they had forwarded the request to DWP as they are the Data Processor. If you don't get your documents after 40 days from your request you can contact ICO who will force IAS to comply under the Data Protection Act. @Will thanks for the news re: the court case. I did indeed suffer a big deterioration in my health ending up with a near breakdown (not quite sure how bad you have to be to say you've had one). I have had an enormous battle to come back from a very dark place but am getting there. This wasn't just caused by PIP but the system brought all my past traumas to the forefront of my mind. Far more consideration needs to be given when it is noted on health records that claimants have a history of severe mental health issues or of course a mental disability. I suppose proving the negative effect was a direct result of seeing my report is a different matter.  

@Rosiesmum A Subject Access Request has nothing whatever to do with your complaint. It is a completely separate thing. If you worded it correctly using those 3 words then whoever has received your email is the one who's confused not you. If the email is one you can reply to make it clear what you're asking for and say it's nothing to do with the complaint. I've just found a form on the Gov.uk called: Request for Personal Information. This is to request it from DWP. The reason I suggest people send it to ATOS first is because I think they add any data they've got to the pack before sending it to DWP. But as they're messing about it might be better to use this form.  

Hi, Regarding ESA (work capability?)  I have just spoken with a very nice man from DWP regarding getting a copy of my f2f assessment report. He called it a "Medical report" and has printed it off and put it in the post to me, stating that he was doing it there and then as I was on hold (I should receive this by Saturday/Monday). Apparently it is not yet with the DM and this could take 6-8 weeks. He said there was no "points" recorded on the report just a 7/10 for pain (which was my reply when asked by the nurse what my pain level was on that day). Had it been higher, I would have been bed bound. I also asked him if the nurse had her surname on this report and what her nursing qualification was. (At the assessment she told me she was not allowed to give out her surname).  He replied with her name and that she was a Registered Nurse but that was all the information he had. It would appear that the only contact number is the freephone one 0800 169 0310 as when I tried the number on my letters from them (ESA Basildon. Wolverhampton 0345 6088545) a recorded message stated that calls to this number are no longer available and to phone the 0800 one instead. 
Hopefully this report will arrive and possibly give me some clue as to what the DM may decide. :-) I will keep you informed of progress in case anything can be of help to others. Thanks again for all your support and help. 

I live in Northern Ireland and.the Dept for Communities (DfC) are responsible for Benefits over here. They will not send out the HP report until they make a decision. I’m confused about what this assors report is, can someone explain

We have received an award, the DM shows us the points for each descriptor, also he included a one page explanation of why he agreeded or disagreeded with various points.That I understand he is the Decision Maker and this is his views.

Here is my problem, I’ve searched the letter but find no mention of a HP having carried out an assessment. For and I quote from the letter:

It goes on to say that he used this information to basically make the award.  It did not say that they looked at my support lette. The letter was signed by the Manager

When I read the quoted section above it appeared to me that the Decision Maker actually made the decision with NO INPUT from a HP.  Am I reading this correctly or is that a pretty standard type of reply?  I feel this could be important for in asking for a MR I could see it been very helpful if it went to review 

Kevin

Pretty much the same over here, except that the DfC will not send out the assessors report until the decision is made.  From what I’ve read that is against the rules but until someone tests then they carry on.

My problem is this. Our assessment was paper based and I don’t know what a HP reports looks like and I’m wondering if the DfC has actually skipped the HP section of the assessment and the DfC Decision Maker made the decision himself.  My reason for this assumption is based on the quote below
Notice it said: I looked at the information As mentioned above there was about a page of explanation ie I agree with this, I disagree with that and he goes on to say that he used this information to basically make the award.  There was NO mention of a HP in the letter. Hopefully you understand what I’m saying.  If this is the case then it certainly gives room for a MR and it is probably against the regulations and definitely material for a tribunal

i have of course asked for a copy of the assessors report which will confirm if I’m correct. I’ve also applied for a SAR but want to be forewarned 

Kevin

kel090 said:

Can you anyone tell me how how long it takes to get a decision after receiving the letter saying they have all havey information they need 

There's no time scales to decisions, backlogs is just part of the reason a decision can be delayed. Ring and request a copy of the assessment report to be sent to you, this will give you some idea what the decision is likely to be because they mostly go with the report.

alisha22 said:

Has anyone had this, I had a letter this morning from the assessment people saying I don't need to attend an assessment for ESA so appointment which was for 30th March next Saturday is cancelled and not to attend. They did mention something about further medical evidence. Not sure whats going on.

Yup, this means they're doing a paper based assessment. You can't be found fit for work without an assessment but you can be placed into either of the groups. Ring DWP end of next week to request a copy of the assessment report, this will tell you what the decision is likely to be because they mostly go with the report.

You can certainly ring the assessment providers for the PIP yes but you're right they're completely different benefits with different criteria.

CockneyRebel said:

Hi @EnglishCapricorn and welcome

Have you recently had an ESA review ?

Have you asked for a mandatory reconsideration ?

Have you had a PIP review ?

PIP and ESA are separate benefits and one should not impact on the other

Hi CockneyRebel and thanks, for reply and other people's  replies. 

I filled both ESA50 and PIP forms out in November last year (both very close to each other) and I was moved from the work related a activity group into the support group due to my DWP ESA50 form and the criteria in it, I presume?  I  was also told my work capaviry asssessment would be six months from the date of their decision: 22/12/19 

I went to a face to face pip meeting three weeks ago with my daughter and I just recived the result letter. I scored zero points?? Very deceitful person person.

Now I got a letter this morning saying I've been moved from the Support Group to the work related activity group? And and monies reduced also. I'm confused? 

Thanks for any replies...