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wrinkly65 Member Posts: 28 Courageous
Hi folks, I assist/deal with my sons affairs etc.He has just received his decision letter and failed to get PIP. Assessor did not ask how tasks affected him and lied on a number of issues.One of main reasons for not scoring points was DWP state that as he works and his job according to them involves complex decisions (it is more about accuracy and speed) and he obtained a degree 4 years ago he is competent for tasks he is not. He has not worked now for almost 6 months due to his illness and is on SSP. How is it possible for your ability in the past to override current state? will be preparing MR for him so any advice please.


  • wilko
    wilko Member Posts: 2,442 Disability Gamechanger
    Use scopes advice page on going for a MR the site Benefits and Work has a lot of information on PIP and ESA about claiming appeals the guides are for members only
  • Matilda
    Matilda Member Posts: 2,610 Disability Gamechanger

    Welcome to the site.  There is a Mandatory Reconsideration letter tool which will generate a letter for you. http://www.advicenow.org.uk/pip-tool 

  • wrinkly65
    wrinkly65 Member Posts: 28 Courageous
     thanks template defo a help as i tend to wonder where to begin. would you advise that i keep reiterating 'unable to work' and no longer has ability: which they have overlooked; in each different section. Especially as DWP basically are saying because he has a degree etc (without knowing what for) and works (on SSP) he is still competent .
  • Matilda
    Matilda Member Posts: 2,610 Disability Gamechanger
    To qualify the disabilities must have been present for 3 months and expected to last for 9 months.  SSP implies short-term sickness.  Maybe he should claim ESA if he thinks he won't be able to work again for at least 9 months.  A benefits advisor in Ask a benefits advisor category could tell you more.
  • BenefitsTrainingCo
    BenefitsTrainingCo Member Posts: 2,628 Pioneering
    edited February 2018
    Hi wrinkly65,

    PIP isn't to do with capability for work so it's the daily living and mobility activities in the PIP assessment that you need to focus on. Ideally in your MR you need to tell them what points he should have scored under each descriptor and if possible provide some medical evidence from a doctor or a hospital consultant, for example, to help you to explain why he satisfies these descriptors.
    For PIP there is a 3 month qualifying period and a 9 month forward test so PIP is only for long term health problems. 
    SSP is normally paid for 26 weeks then if your son is unable to go back to work he should apply for ESA or Universal Credit, depending on where he lives.

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