Pip Assessors Report . Review the claim again in ? years .

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maid08 said:

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Oh and at no point am I telling anyone not to fight. I’m using my experience as a WRO to explain what the correct battles are. The ones you can win.

just a note on what you said 1 i know what i should have goten a know how much lies cost me  i know my pip will stop straight after acessmant and how much it will cost me i also know three consultants were gobsmacked at last acessmants results and i aldso know why i had last one looked at dispite mr failing  purely as the  daft dm sighned my papers   her mistake  meant i was able to point out i could and would take her to court    she then relooked at my case rung on a sat morning exsplaing she had awaerded enought points for both lower is that satisfactory to me ??now after all the hassel lies from them till that time i had a sress related stroke so   i think i know its fight or stop  instead of  listening to peaple on here who prob had it easy   refering to youer comment half won't know what points or a mount they lost should have sorry if this affends but a walefare rights person told me that yes you need medical documants and consultants  and any evidance  that helps dm make his decision ??all wrong i have it in writeing from dwp they use only acessers report as a fully qualified medical profesinol and there is no point in this advice it is a complete waste of time 
- complaint to assessment provider if guidance breached.
- complaint to the relevant professional body for the HCP if misconduct etc. can be demonstrated.
Read more at https://community.scope.org.uk/discussion/40571/pip-assessors-report-review-the-claim-again-in-years#QEFGd76Bsm4MVp1X.99

I’m not going to take offence so no need to apologise but, no, you’re making assertions. You’re guessing that your PIP will cease immediately after your assessment when a decision is made. That’s a guess understandably based on your previous experience but it is a guess and not a fact until it happens. Trying to prevent things happening on a case that haven’t actually happened yet is just misdirecting yourself to no gain and potentially creating way more stress and (especially) delay than is needed.

The advice you had from a welfare rights person was correct but... the best evidence for a PIP claim is your own anecdotal evidence of the impact of your conditions. That’s the single most persuasive thing. However, if there are specifc gaps in the evidence then other evidence (not necessarily medical), which addresses those gaps directly, can be vital. I am of the view that WRAs who say you can’t succeed without medical evidence and who put the emphasis on that are demonstrably wrong. 52% of successful claims succeed without any medical evidence. Advice that you must put in medical evidence is wrong. Advice that you should put in medical evidence directed to addressing specific gaps is good advice. Whilst a DM may prefer the evidence of a HCP they cannot ignore other evidence and an appeal tribunal usually won’t either.

You have also misunderstood your DWP correspondence. You are incorrect in assuming DWP only consider the HCP report. If your supporting evidence went in with your claim pack then it should be scanned and uploaded so the HCP can see it before your assessment and can take it into account. Sadly that upload often fails and, even when it doesn’t, HCPs almost never have the time to read the masses of (often irrelevant) medical reports claimants send in. If the diagnosis itself is not disputed then consultants reports are largely irrelevant as they don’t specifically address daily living or mobility and it’s absolutely legit for both a HCP and a DWP DM to give them little weight. That’s not the same as spitefully or deliberately ignoring them.

DWP decision and MR decision letters are computer generated at speed and under pressure. They will often say that they only used the claim pack and the HCP report when that isn’t what they did at all. 

dottydotty said:

Maid08   I'm sure ive read on  a post on here  that you can ask  who will be assessing  you and what their occupation medical knowledge is , .prior to assessment .

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Nope, I’ve not said any of that and I’m not a “former” WRO.

The fact you’re still largely referring to your impairments and not the points scoring consequences suggests you have yet to identify the specific points you should score and may well have focused on gathering irrelevant evidence in consequence. 

You appear to be misinterpreting most everything you’ve been advised on so sadly I doubt there's anything I can usefully add.