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thing is the DWP know this the gov know this and now we are finding out for ourselves by checking and asking my view any assessment done the acesser needs checking and if not reg to act on a youer illness you demand the report a fake plus report acesser to governing body
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I was assessed by a person who first told me.
My name is ...
I am a nurse.
Is she qualified to be an assesser ?1 -
WELL I am wondering if anyone else has thought about this? do PIP assessors and DWP decision makers discriminate against some people? YES!
PIP assessors then DWP decision makers are not taking into account problems that lack of height and reach causes for many people.
Take 2 People one way over 6 foot tall P1,
the other way under 5 foot P2
who have whole body and joint mega stiffness and nerve pain and muscle weakness, cannot use stairs steps as they feel unsafe and even feel unsafe on uneven ground, have problems with hands feet joints and spasms, cramps of hands etc.
P1 may be able to open a cupboard which is level with their chest because of their tall height and longer reach, and be able to take out a plate pan or food from the bottom or middle shelf of the cupboard be it in pain and tiring.
WHEREAS
But P2 with the same disabilities as P1, how could they do the same? as they can't even climb onto a step ladder or stool? and if they could they would then have to lean over towards the cupboard and stretch to try to get a plate pan or food off the bottom shelf..
Try explaining that to the assessors! regarding being able to prepare and cook food!
In a previous comment by ceege4 re cooking, there are no questions about shopping for the food.
It appears that shopping just arrives and puts itself away, according to the PIP, and short stature people must just float up to the cupboards to get out and put away pots pans food.
The people I took can neither bend down into cupboards or reach up to cupboards and cannot use step ladders, its unsafe!
Try telling PIP that though.
More possible answers should be on the form as people with the same problems but differing heights reaches etc do not have exactly the same problems.
Putting a A cold microwave meal or pie into the microwave is hardly preparing and cooking a meal, and if they can't lift it out of the microwave or carry the hot plate to a table what are they supposed to do? wake up .GOV
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How does one get this PIP .over turned and dla decisions brought into practice.
Is there any organisation s contesting the government .
One thing is the mobility part. Ie the walking distance.0 -
Hi everyone i am new to the site i won my PIP tribunal on the 4th of april this year can anyone please tell me how long it will take to get my letter so i can get my motability car back please1
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Thankyou for your help0
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Hi Everyone does anyone know if there is a time limit to get a Motability car again ie can't have another car within 6 months of handing car back? Also, has anyone had PIP appeal to a higher court because they don't agree with the tribunal's decision? Many thanks Carol0
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Usually the DWP put a tribunal award into payment 5-8 weeksHody said:Hi everyone i am new to the site i won my PIP tribunal on the 4th of april this year can anyone please tell me how long it will take to get my letter so i can get my motability car back please
You should ring DWP to make sure they have a copy of the decison
CR
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hi Carolceege4 said:Hi Everyone does anyone know if there is a time limit to get a Motability car again ie can't have another car within 6 months of handing car back? Also, has anyone had PIP appeal to a higher court because they don't agree with the tribunal's decision? Many thanks Carol
Motability are the best people to talk to about time limits.
You can only take a tribunal decison further if an error in law is present in the decison. There often is but you will need trained advice on the matter.
Grounds for further appeal do not include disagreeing with decision
CR
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Hi @CockneyRebel thank you for your reply. At my tribunal I asked the judge if I had to go through this every year and he said he was awarding it indefinitely but PIP may appeal to a higher court. I was wondering if PIP have done this at all? Carol0
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Ah Ok I understand now
The DWP can appeal to the Upper Tier Tribunal (UTT)
They can only do so if an error in law can be found in the decision.
They will first ask the judge for a statement of reason and record of proceedings
There are often errors present but the DWP seldom take any further action.
Even though the judge said he was awarding indefinitely, no such award exists in PIP
The DM can and does ignore time limits from tribunal decisions as PIP can be reviewed at any time
When you receive your decision letter, look at the end date but more importantly the review date
CR
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@cegee
At my tribunal the judge told me was making an indefinite award. The award letter from the DWP said that they would contact me after 10 years from the date of the tribunal decision. Others have said that their award letters had the same wording so I assume that yours will, too.1 -
OK thanks CR. I'll be very surprised if they do appeal due to all the medical evidence including the original medical report they said wasn't available, but I contacted data records and they sent me a copy! Funny that!! Also they included a wad of someone else's information in the middle of my bundle and the judge mentioned a data breach in his letter to them and myself. Just hope this is the end of it all now.0
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Correction - 10 years from the date the arrears were paid from.
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