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Should I risk appealing pip.
jacqui838
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Hi I'm currently on stendered . Rate on pip. And I'm. Appealing mobility as they gave me 10 points for this. However the question of planning and following a journey they will not give me the points for. I have given so much information for this and they refuse to accept that I'm not able to. No matter what I say they think I'm lieing. Been on pip for 2 years my review is in February 2019.. I have herd now to wait for the review instead of risking the appeal. I'm at that stage. And the affect its having on me dealing with them. There just so nasty and constantly tell me i can do all the things even though the medical evidence says I'm not able to and me. Any help would be really appreciated.
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I jumped off the PIP train. It's better for my health but tight on the pocket.
On your next review if they still don't give you it appeal it took me 18 months to get a result but its sweet at the end ,one up for the disabled.
A few extra things to say.
1) DWP do not think you’re lying. They weigh all the evidence (granted, often incorrectly) and arrive at a conclusion. It doesn’t follow that, because their conclusion is different to yours, they have concluded you’re a liar. It’s very unlikely two people looking at the same thing come to the same conclusion but not doing so doesn’t make one of them wrong.
2) It’s hard to imagine what medical evidence would specifically conclude you could not follow a journey at all. How would a medical professional know that?
3) To get from 10 to 12 points does not involve planning a journey. It’s exclusively about following. I’m wondering if you may have misunderstood the criteria.
If I know that I am telling the truth - say physically cannot walk more than 10 metres without falling over and the DWP based on the evidence that they hold say that I can walk at least 200 metres either I am completely mistaken or that I am a liar.
And that two case managers looking at the same file/evidence could come up with two entirely different versions of fact is really ridiculous.
Based on that two situations could arise.
(1) that it depends if one case manager has had a bad night and his wife has left him and the other case manager-
(2) He has just been told that he has won the Euro Millions.
Similar to an appellant describing the 30m wall to their local shop that’s the only thing they do walk. Google Maps then shows it’s 80m! One estimate was wrong. Nobody lied but only one thing is true.
Now that’s not to say one way or another whether the right conclusion was drawn in your case but I think it’s safe ground to say that nobody is saying you lied.
After my spine thundered to a halt in early 2014 I could honestly say that I could not sit in one position for more than 2 or 3 minutes without having to move and I could not stand for more than 5 without risk of buckling to the floor. A private Physio told me I’d better get used to it as it was going to be at that level for the rest of my life! They were wrong but...
If a HCP had told me I could do better that I’ve a good idea of the kind of language I might have used. However a rehab Physio gave me two core strength exercises that within weeks improved that and a different private Physio produced a complete transformation within 6 weeks that has by and large stuck provided I maintain my core strength.
Given access to a claim pack; medical history and records it would be open to a decent HCP to conclude that my assertions as to my ability were an underestimate.
And my ammune system is attacking itself. Plus it's all in my joints. And I use to work for DWP in state pension. Gone from being a working mother having a life. And now I'm existing and I'm only 38.
If you go to Appeal the tribunal will advise you at the beginning if they’d a possibly of you losing the appeal and give you the chance to stop the appeal and stay in the award you received after your f2f.
So you’v nothing to lose by going to the appeal because they will tell you before it starts if you might lose.
good luck