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  • april123
    april123 Community member Posts: 137 Pioneering
    Well hello, just thought I would update and let you know I have decided to appeal on relibily as I feel I didn't complete the activity of 20/50 in a timely manor. Looking back 50 meters in 10 mins requiring 2 stops in pain. How's everyone getting on or feeling

  • susan48
    susan48 Community member Posts: 2,221 Disability Gamechanger
    @april123, good luck with your appeal.
    Im not sure about distance etc, Iv mental health problems.

    it sound very complicated and confusing when you’v to calculate distance, time etc.


  • april123
    april123 Community member Posts: 137 Pioneering
    Hi, susan, I will be a lawyer by the time I'm finish lol. We can only try , my head is all over the place . But the more I read the more I'm convience I didn't meet or complete the crietera. Have just sent in appeal form so not really sure what s next.  How are you doing
  • susan48
    susan48 Community member Posts: 2,221 Disability Gamechanger
    April,
    maybe try getting advice from CAB about help and support with the appeal.
    There is another place but my heads went blank!!
    It’s all very stressful, I know.
    youl just now have to wait on a date but try and get letters to support your appeal, GP, hospital etc. Send any supporting info when you get your date for appeal. Youl have plenty time, think there’s a massive backlog, depending where you are in the country, i was lucky only a 3 month wait.


  • april123
    april123 Community member Posts: 137 Pioneering
    Susan48 already been CAB for MR but he didn't seem to know much about the reliabilyre he should you can only use it in DLA only. So going to just poor on with hubbies help
    How did yours go

  • april123
    april123 Community member Posts: 137 Pioneering
    What .Part of the world you in Susan
    I got to try find out Birmingham wait time 
  • susan48
    susan48 Community member Posts: 2,221 Disability Gamechanger
    I’m in Scotland.
    there plenty on this site about the appeal process though and help to prepare. 
    I didn’t have professional help either, most of it alone except the f2f and appeal.
    I won my appeal thankfully but found the process overwhelming .

    im only now starting to get over it, 4 months later .

  • april123
    april123 Community member Posts: 137 Pioneering
    I'm so pleased you won and delighted your putting it behind you so unfair to make us all feels so uck
  • susan48
    susan48 Community member Posts: 2,221 Disability Gamechanger
    Thanks.
    I understand the logic, wanting to see a person etc to actually see there is a disability but seriously, they make you feel like a liar, cheat and question everything you’v told them.

    Who in there right mind, says me with mental health problems lol, would put themselves through all that heartache to cheat the government out of money!

    I do hope you don’t have to wait too long, maybe call the tribunal office and ask roughly how long the wait is in your area
  • april123
    april123 Community member Posts: 137 Pioneering
    Susan48 I will wait a few weeks then I will. To know your not a liar as it's happening to many times and we have each other for sopport at least we can sleep with a clear concious can they. And karma is not nice 
  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Disability Gamechanger
    Matilda said:
    If you have to go to appeal remember 69% of appeals succeed.  Asking for how long someone can walk without relating it to distance is a favourite ploy so they can assume you can walk farther than you can.

    At my PIP tribunal hearing I insisted on relating time to distance.  I was awarded enhanced mobility.

    Always relate time to distance.
    Who actually goes out with a tape measure to work out distance and a stop watch to record time?

    I certainly don't  and I doubt many others do. Both distance and time are pure guess work.
  • Tigermoth42
    Tigermoth42 Community member Posts: 243 Pioneering
    Couldn’t agree more @Yadnad. I could imagine the assessors have an idea of how far it is from their reception to the assessment room but, as my husband said, if I hadn’t struggled to get to the room and subsequently back to my car, I’d still be there now and they weren’t going to hold the f2f in reception. Hope everyone has a peaceful day. Much love to you all. 
  • Jaytbm1
    Jaytbm1 Community member Posts: 72 Pioneering
    @susan48 Glad you won your appeal, it gives hope to the rest of us waiting for a date to go to Court. The whole process is a shambles, causing more stress to people who are already ill . They do make you feel like a cheat , I have been upset ever since my assessment. Even with letters from my specialist, telling them I can’t walk without pain and have suffered from Rheumatoid Arthritis for over 30 years , affecting  all of My joints they still say it’s not enough evidence. I am shocked by the amount of people who are going through this ordeal . Good luck to everyone going through this , hope that this system gets changed ASAP. Though I am not holding my breath . I think sadly we are an easy target . 
  • tina1888
    tina1888 Community member Posts: 85 Courageous
    Tigermoth I agree completely with u... they simply make it up put in whatever figure suits them. I have osteoporosis in both knees and hip and have type 1 diabetes 4 30 years which has caused severe nerve damage I am in pain when I sit stand walk all the time but they said 50 to whatever meters.
  • Tigermoth42
    Tigermoth42 Community member Posts: 243 Pioneering
    Hi @tina1888 so sorry to read about your difficulties my lovely, have you appealed their decision? It’s absolutely dreadful that people are being put through this nightmare, all for a little bit extra to help make lives easier. I agree with you, they do make it up, I swear they just pick a number regardless of what you say. My original decision by the dwp was 50 - 200 metres, based on the assessor writing that I walked 25 metres at a steady pace holding a crutch and my husbands arm. I actually staggered whatever distance it was, stumbling at least three times, how they arrived at a figure of 200 metres is beyond me. Needless to say it was changed on MR to 20 - 50 metres. Why didn’t they put that the first time? (rhetorical question ?) It would have saved me the severe anxiety I experienced for nigh on eight weeks and them the extra time to reassess. It’s a complete joke, the whole system is not fit for purpose and disabled people are being made to suffer needlessly. Sending you hugs x
  • tina1888
    tina1888 Community member Posts: 85 Courageous
    It's just awful x yes I am waiting for the date 4 appeal which I'm dreading. My assessor gave me the minimum of 2 points 4 a number of things that got me the care part but there was no way I was just 2 points on some of those.
    I have mobility due to osteoporosis and nerve damage but also psychological issues which worsen my symptoms for example I have OCD over testing for my diabetes I'm so scared of hypoing I will not leave the house on my own. 
    I got 4 points she said along the lines of I could take familiar journies fine. It was lies.
    Thanx for getting back to me it honestly is great to have found this group and people who are going through similar things x
  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Disability Gamechanger
    edited June 2018
    tina1888 said:
    I have OCD over testing for my diabetes I'm so scared of hypoing I will not leave the house on my own. 
    You should go and see your GP or Diabetes Nurse. You are being a prisoner in your own home for no good reason.

    You should never have a hypo if you have full control of your diabetes. The whole idea with the modern range of insulins as well as the methods used to inject is that your diabetes should not compete with you living a normal, active and full life.
    I am a type 1 and have an attitude that I will eat and drink anything I like in any quantity in the knowledge that I have the tools that allows it.

    Obviously Diabetes can cause other issues which can impinge on your lifestyle. But in the main being a type 1 diabetic on its own is not a life sentence nor is it a disability..

    I use two types of insulin, Lantus and Novo Rapid and carry them along with the testing strips and sharps with me at all times. In fact people that find out that I am a diabetic are amazed at what I eat and how busy my lifestyle is. I am 70 so not a young strong chicken! 

    In all of the three PIP reviews I have been through, my diabetes has never been mentioned for the reason that it is an inconvenience but nothing more than that.
  • Tigermoth42
    Tigermoth42 Community member Posts: 243 Pioneering
    Hi @tina1888 do keep us posted with your progress my lovely. I’m so sorry to hear about how your diabetes affects your life, I can’t imagine how hard you must find it with your ocd. I understand the osteoporosis, I have it too together with fibro, ddd, nerve damage, depression and anxiety. This group is fab, I’m so glad I found it, it kinda helps knowing you’re not alone, looking forward to chatting with you ❤️
  • april123
    april123 Community member Posts: 137 Pioneering
    Susan48 have rang and checked appeal received in time and accepted.  They said the DWP will be given 4 weeks to either change it or go to court. If they choose court they will send me all documents involved and the waiting time in Birmingham is approximately 30/37 weeks.
  • tina1888
    tina1888 Community member Posts: 85 Courageous
    @Yadnad thanx for your opinion and advice. The thing is type 1 diabetes is different to every individual.  Everybody can cope with things at different levels.
    It's great your diabetes doesn't affect you very much. That's brilliant there could be many factors in this. The length of time you have been diabetic. The longer you have the more damage gets done to your body.
    Eating what u like and taking whatever amounts of insulin you like is not the answer. This can cause blindness Alzheimer's and a list of other problems. 
    I hope when I go to appeal whomever is hearing it understands that it affects everyone differently and sees me on the difficulties that I have.

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