PIP assessment
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After waiting almost 14 weeks I got a letter today saying I have to have a f2f which I was really hoping I didn’t as I supplied lots of medical evidence and now I am a wreck with worry! I am so scared as I never had one for my ESA or my DLA ??
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niknoo said:After waiting almost 14 weeks I got a letter today saying I have to have a f2f which I was really hoping I didn’t as I supplied lots of medical evidence and now I am a wreck with worry! I am so scared as I never had one for my ESA or my DLA ??
The reason being that it was wrong to allow those on DLA to have the benefit paid for years without any check being made to ensure that they still continued to be entitled. As you say you never had a face to face assessment for your DLA.
That said and providing that you have a decent assessor who takes their job seriously and generally abides by the guidance that they are supposed to adhere to then it is nothing more than a chat as to what your issues are and how your life has been impacted by them
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@Yadnad thank you for replying, That’s a really good way off looking at it - a chat as to what my conditions are and how they impact my life. God I will be in there forever then haha!
With my DLA and ESA the medical evidence was enough to go by, but I know virtually everyone has to have a f2f with PIP.
I’m just very daunted as I’ve had DLA my entire adult life and so scared as all
you hear his horror stories. That being said, the more positive ones are starting to filter through now. Xx -
niknoo said:@Yadnad thank you for replying, That’s a really good way off looking at it - a chat as to what my conditions are and how they impact my life. God I will be in there forever then haha!
With my DLA and ESA the medical evidence was enough to go by, but I know virtually everyone has to have a f2f with PIP.
I’m just very daunted as I’ve had DLA my entire adult life and so scared as all
you hear his horror stories. That being said, the more positive ones are starting to filter through now. Xx
My experience of PIP has been one horror after another but that's another story.
Always plan for the worse but hope for the best - that's all you can do.
It has taken me 5 years to realise, in fact just a few months to understand, what you have to do to give yourself the best chance of a decent award.
Always plenty of help and advice on here
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@Yadnad thank you for your advice. I know you had a terrible time of it regarding PIP, but what you’ve told me has eased my mind somewhat. I was physically shaking when I got the letter yesterday. I hate meeting new people and going to strange places even with the support of my partner. I rang yesterday to change the appointment as I wasn’t able to get to the original one without someone coming with me and even making that phone call I was crying, I was shaking, I nearly threw up. But the lady I spoke to was so lovely and said not worry the can change it to a date that’s convenient for me, which they did but I just know I’m going to be such a mess there. I’ll be so embarrassed if I have a panic attack there I will end up vomiting! Which I most likely will. I am in such a state about it. Xx
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niknoo said:@Yadnad thank you for your advice. I know you had a terrible time of it regarding PIP, but what you’ve told me has eased my mind somewhat. I was physically shaking when I got the letter yesterday. I hate meeting new people and going to strange places even with the support of my partner. I rang yesterday to change the appointment as I wasn’t able to get to the original one without someone coming with me and even making that phone call I was crying, I was shaking, I nearly threw up. But the lady I spoke to was so lovely and said not worry the can change it to a date that’s convenient for me, which they did but I just know I’m going to be such a mess there. I’ll be so embarrassed if I have a panic attack there I will end up vomiting! Which I most likely will. I am in such a state about it. Xx
Hence the reason why my assessor reports always come over as the assessor having to answer his/her own questions.
Obviously you won't have that as a problem so be as relaxed as you can and hopefully with a good assessor you can talk openly about your problems.
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Yadnad said:niknoo said:@Yadnad thank you for your advice. I know you had a terrible time of it regarding PIP, but what you’ve told me has eased my mind somewhat. I was physically shaking when I got the letter yesterday. I hate meeting new people and going to strange places even with the support of my partner. I rang yesterday to change the appointment as I wasn’t able to get to the original one without someone coming with me and even making that phone call I was crying, I was shaking, I nearly threw up. But the lady I spoke to was so lovely and said not worry the can change it to a date that’s convenient for me, which they did but I just know I’m going to be such a mess there. I’ll be so embarrassed if I have a panic attack there I will end up vomiting! Which I most likely will. I am in such a state about it. Xx
Hence the reason why my assessor reports always come over as the assessor having to answer his/her own questions.
Obviously you won't have that as a problem so be as relaxed as you can and hopefully with a good assessor you can talk openly about your problems. -
Username_removed said:
Despite the 84% figure DLA was all about self assessment and if a condition was clearly for life or degenerative then why would you have a review.
However what I can say in my own defence is that in 1995 I had a Social Services WRO help complete the DLA forms. From memory there were two of them A and B. The only evidence that I know that went to the DWP was a form that they issued and requested it be returned by my GP.
When it came up for renewal in 2004 they issued the same forms but they were never returned as I didn't know that they had been issued as I was seriously ill in hospital. In 2011 I reapplied and the same award as before - High Mobility & High Care but this time indefinitely was given. Once again this form was completed by the same WRO as I was still under Social Services. According to my GP they did not contact him.
So in effect from 1995 to 2013 when I had my DLA awards the DWP had only contacted somebody (GP) once in 1995. If PIP had not come along and being on an indefinite award it is likely that the DLA payments would have continued indefinitely. As it is I have had rather haphazard PIP awards since 2013 and since earlier this year no award. That in itself shows that by having regular re-assessments can and does save a considerable amount of money for the Exchequer.
Under DLA I remember a friend that claimed under the '6 months to live' criteria and was given an indefinite award of both high rates for both components. That was in 1993. He died in 1998. This in my opinion made a mockery of that system. No checks were made to see if he was still alive. Under PIP I believe the award given in these circumstances is for 3 years, with a review after 2 years so that continued existence would be checked.
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@Username_removed this is what has upset me so much. My illness will never go, there is no cure, it’s degenerative and will kill me so why put people with illnesses like mine through it? It’s just not fair. I had my indefinite award and now I’ve got to prove my illness again, I submitted so much medical eveidence but I suppose they just briefly touch on how it affects me so I guessing speaking with me will give them greater detail? I’m just so scared I hate this! It’s making me feel very ill with stress. Xxx
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debbiedo49 said:
For me it is about as useful as talking therapy or listening to whale music.
Fear of anything be it actual or perceived and certainly in my case, leads to the flight or fight scenario. For me it is always fight - never been the person to run away from anything or anybody hence why I ended up with the damaged brain that I have along with the scars of the two bullet wounds!
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Hi @niknoo, I am sorry that the idea of a f2f is so nerve wracking for you. Is there anyone that you could take with you to help keep you calm? The community are behind you and can support you through the whole process
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@Yadnad different things work for different people
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@Chloe_Scope thank you, yes my partner is coming with me, I can’t go out without someone with me due to both physical and mental issues thank you xx
and @Username_removed can I suggest that to them then? xxx -
@mikehughescq, brilliant thank you and advice is much appreciated! xxx
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So I’ve managed to get a advocate from the local benefit support agency to come to my assessment with me. I’m feeling much calmer now
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I have just been through the process and given a 10 year award. I think you need to be honest and send in as much supporting evidence as possible. I had a home face to face and again, be honest as you will feel more comfortable and they will pick it up. They are not there to trick you but to get a fair assessment of your capacity to do certain tasks. I know I was terrified but it was fine. Don't panic and good luck everyone who's going through it.
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