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DLA for 20 years and now 0 points on PIP!

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  • MrsWolfie2210
    MrsWolfie2210 Community member Posts: 42 Courageous
    @debbiedo49 I was very clear that I use adapted knives, my husband helps me open jars and cans and has to supervise me because I do stupid things like leave the gas cooker on because of my anxiety - I was still awarded 0 points! My husband came to my assessment with me and helped explain the help he gives me. Guess what? Still 0 points!

    Helen x
  • debbiedo49
    debbiedo49 Community member Posts: 2,904 Disability Gamechanger
    Hey guys,
    Wow this has escalated a bit! Yes, the taxi situ is a crazy one to me, too. If the taxi broke down I;d be thrown into a full-scale panic. In fact, for me to get in a taxi at all on my own just wouldn't heppen because of my anxiety. I can plan an unfamiliar journey with no issue because that's just using a map, but follow it? As in manage the bus, car, train or whatever without crippling anxiety which would probably make me abort the journey? That's a no!

    Also, as a sidenote, I wouldn't book a taxi myself - I get anxious using telephones!

    Helen x
    Yes me too. They tribunal organised my taxi. The driver tried to engage me in what route to take and I said don’t ask me uour the driver. I don’t drive. Do you have a sat nav? If it broke down I wouldn’t be able to do anything for panic. I don’t like using the phone either I email mostly. I would have just relied on the driver go sort the problem. 
  • debbiedo49
    debbiedo49 Community member Posts: 2,904 Disability Gamechanger
    @debbiedo49 I was very clear that I use adapted knives, my husband helps me open jars and cans and has to supervise me because I do stupid things like leave the gas cooker on because of my anxiety - I was still awarded 0 points! My husband came to my assessment with me and helped explain the help he gives me. Guess what? Still 0 points!

    Helen x
    I got zero point too for cooking as I said I could make a sandwich at a push. I only cook with my son beside me helping me as I’m not safe in the kitchen and I told them how he helps me. Zero
  • MrsWolfie2210
    MrsWolfie2210 Community member Posts: 42 Courageous
    @debbiedo49 did you go to MR/appeal? What do they expect us to do?! I get clamping down on fraudsters but this is crazy! Disabled people shouldn't have to go before a judge to be entitled to benefits - we're disabled, not criminals! For many of us (myself included) that's only going to excacerbate our condition/s!

    Helen x
  • sue66
    sue66 Community member Posts: 124 Pioneering
    @debbiedo49 did you go to MR/appeal? What do they expect us to do?! I get clamping down on fraudsters but this is crazy! Disabled people shouldn't have to go before a judge to be entitled to benefits - we're disabled, not criminals! For many of us (myself included) that's only going to excacerbate our condition/s!

    Helen x
    Totally agree  with you Helen, hows it come to this when disabled people are treated in some case like criminals having to appear before a judge. We would all like to be fit and well enough to go out and earn our own money if we could.!

    Sue x
  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Disability Gamechanger
    @debbiedo49 did you go to MR/appeal? What do they expect us to do?! I get clamping down on fraudsters but this is crazy! Disabled people shouldn't have to go before a judge to be entitled to benefits - we're disabled, not criminals! For many of us (myself included) that's only going to excacerbate our condition/s!

    Helen x
    It's nothing really to do with fraudsters. The DWP have to carry out the wishes of the Treasury in that no matter what they do they must at all costs get as many people off benefits as possible. It's political really.


  • MrsWolfie2210
    MrsWolfie2210 Community member Posts: 42 Courageous
    @Yadnad well no, this is true. I think I've seen one too many benefit fraud posters in my time and it's made me aware that such thing sadly exists, hence when these re-forms happen these people get the brunt of my frustration along with the Government. Both rightly so, but still.

    Helen x
  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Disability Gamechanger
    @Yadnad well no, this is true. I think I've seen one too many benefit fraud posters in my time and it's made me aware that such thing sadly exists, hence when these re-forms happen these people get the brunt of my frustration along with the Government. Both rightly so, but still.

    Helen x
    The amount that is taken by fraudulent means is tiny by comparison to the overall figures. Of course the government will use that argument to get people to agree with making welfare benefits more difficult to get.
    More is lost by the DWP in errors and in maladministration than there is by way of fraud.
  • MrsWolfie2210
    MrsWolfie2210 Community member Posts: 42 Courageous
    @Yadnad classic case of media sensationalism and availability heuristics at play, then.

    Helen x
  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Disability Gamechanger
    @Yadnad classic case of media sensationalism and availability heuristics at play, then.

    Helen x
    Exactly right. Give the impression to the general public and the press that there is a huge problem with fraudulent claims. - the public then get onside with the government to do something about it - then the government get the green light to make benefit claims more difficult to weed out these scroungers!

    The real reason is that the Treasury want to save money but if that was the reason given it would fall on deaf ears.
  • debbiedo49
    debbiedo49 Community member Posts: 2,904 Disability Gamechanger
    @debbiedo49 did you go to MR/appeal? What do they expect us to do?! I get clamping down on fraudsters but this is crazy! Disabled people shouldn't have to go before a judge to be entitled to benefits - we're disabled, not criminals! For many of us (myself included) that's only going to excacerbate our condition/s!

    Helen x
    Yes this was at tribunal. I got mobility points so I made the best of it
  • MrsWolfie2210
    MrsWolfie2210 Community member Posts: 42 Courageous
    @Yadnad it's interesting how that works. Unrelated, but some years ago I used to get myself really hyped up because of the media and overseas conflict. It was only when I started to study and understand the media that I became familiar with terms such as availability heuristics (a different but commonly used example, plane crashes) and confirmation bias. It was in use during the Cold War (not that I'm that old!) and it is still very much in use now! It's sick and saddening that it's the disabled people, and those who really and geneuinely need the support, that seem to take the brunt of it. It's not our fault we can't go out and earn a pretty penny.

    Helen x
  • MrsWolfie2210
    MrsWolfie2210 Community member Posts: 42 Courageous
    @sue66 exactly. I'm getting quite nervous because it really will be a "your word against mine" situation for me I feel. I don't have any specialist input and I haven't done for years, I just am, simply put.

    Helen x
  • MrsWolfie2210
    MrsWolfie2210 Community member Posts: 42 Courageous
    @debbiedo49 that's horrific! Did you have a representative? I've done some ringing around today..well, emailing around, but anyway! I had to ask the CAB to email me back because phonecalls make me anxious!

    Helen x
  • debbiedo49
    debbiedo49 Community member Posts: 2,904 Disability Gamechanger
    @debbiedo49 that's horrific! Did you have a representative? I've done some ringing around today..well, emailing around, but anyway! I had to ask the CAB to email me back because phonecalls make me anxious!

    Helen x
    Yes i had a rep. They said take it
  • MrsWolfie2210
    MrsWolfie2210 Community member Posts: 42 Courageous
    @debbiedo49 it really does concern me that without specialist input, you odn't seem to get far.
  • debbiedo49
    debbiedo49 Community member Posts: 2,904 Disability Gamechanger
    It’s stilll worth trying
  • MrsWolfie2210
    MrsWolfie2210 Community member Posts: 42 Courageous
    @debbiedo49 I suppose so. I think I have been panicking a lot though, as I say, it's hard to prove anything without the medical evidence,
  • mollyoscar
    mollyoscar Community member Posts: 2 Listener
    Hi Helen Ask for a home visit Also join the benefits and work website It helps to know how to word things that you cannot do I found it invaluable when filling out the forms The more information you put down the better Its well worth the joining fee I know I could not have managed the forms without it Good luck x

  • Yadnad
    Yadnad Posts: 2,856 Disability Gamechanger
    It’s stilll worth trying
    …..but only if you have a better than 50% chance of getting the award you deserve. 

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