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  • justg72
    justg72 Community member Posts: 173 Pioneering
    Hi All
    I agree with many of the comments above. I have had successful PIP assessments and have had enhanced for both. However this time I scored 0 for both. The HCP answered questions which weren't asked and also lied and twisted things I had said. I also had strong  evidence from my epileptic nurse stating uncontrolled epilepsy and I had daily grand mal seizures. She also explained how my condition affected me against the descriptors. This is what she put: cooking and went on to say that I had burnt myself and I had left the cooker on and nearly burnt the house down, lucky my son came home because of seizure. Nurse advised no cooking. Bathing nurse said that I had had a seizure and nearly drowned in bath because I had no supervision, advice supervision at all times. The HCP awarded 0, this is only a  few examples, or and  my disability is invisible. So some are corrupt. Tribunal next step.
  • Benistmonk
    Benistmonk Community member Posts: 343 Pioneering
    justg72 said:
    Hi All
    I agree with many of the comments above. I have had successful PIP assessments and have had enhanced for both. However this time I scored 0 for both. The HCP answered questions which weren't asked and also lied and twisted things I had said. I also had strong  evidence from my epileptic nurse stating uncontrolled epilepsy and I had daily grand mal seizures. She also explained how my condition affected me against the descriptors. This is what she put: cooking and went on to say that I had burnt myself and I had left the cooker on and nearly burnt the house down, lucky my son came home because of seizure. Nurse advised no cooking. Bathing nurse said that I had had a seizure and nearly drowned in bath because I had no supervision, advice supervision at all times. The HCP awarded 0, this is only a  few examples, or and  my disability is invisible. So some are corrupt. Tribunal next step.
    There is no doubt about it in my mind, I would say most of them are totally corrupt. I have seen 2 cases recently in the papers, one was a man with an eating disorder who only weighed 6 stone, the other was an old lady who was blind, had crippling arthritis and type 2 diabetes and couldn't even make a cup of tea for herself, those people had no quality of life and may not be long for this world due to illness, both were declared fit for work by criminals.

    When you see cases like that, its not just the assessors who are corrupt, the whole bloody system is corrupt and that includes the government for allowing this to happen.
  • RickyMR
    RickyMR Community member Posts: 13 Connected
    I agree wholeheartedly. It makes me want to weep not only for myself but for all the other poor disabled people who deserve to be treated better by this Country. . I like many others have worked all my life from when I was sixteen until retirement and never claimed  a penny out of the State, and now need help you have to fight for everything. At least we have all you lovely supporters and can vent our frustrations on people who understand.
  • MatthewD1985
    MatthewD1985 Community member Posts: 31 Connected
    edited February 2019
    Yadnad said:
    Medical evidence is only good if it's from a community mental health team because this states in a lot of detail exactly how your conditions affect you.
    Yep got to agree with you.

    As you may or may not know, back in 2012 I had a whole series of tests and scans relating to brain function carried out by the CMHT for Older People . You are right those reports, one in particular, went on through 6 pages including what the effects were on me and how the issues impacted on how I lived my life. 

    I know you have said it before that there is no rule on how old a report can be if it is still relevant years later. Yes that report actually was the reason in 2013 and 2015 that changed my PIP award from 0 points to Enhanced Care. 

    Unfortunately the DWP refused to use it in 2017 citing that it was too old! Hence why the MR did not change.

    But I will agree reports of that type and nature are a godsend.


    I had a good report written by my CMHT Nurse that I had regular contact with, along with a letter from the doctor at the welsh gov where I worked saying that I was capable of doing my job very well but that the social anxiety of being at work was affecting my mental health significantly. However since I turned 30 3 years ago the early intervention service discharged me as is only available to people up to 30, I was not told and as a result have been waiting to be seen by the adult mental health team ever since, I went for an assessment with a social worker and i had a letter to see psychiatrist but the letter arrived on the day of the appointment and as post doesn't turn up until about half 11 so i had missed it by then, They literally sent the letter 2nd class 2 days before appointment then cancelled my referral into the mental health service for not showing - so not only do we have to battle with the welfare system we are now battling with the NHS just to see someone and they are doing things to try make sure we miss appointments and not have access to services we pay for, despite having waited years anyway with only a contact number for a crisis and shed loads of antipsychotics and lorazepam. So I was lucky they used those pieces of evidence as well as GP info for my most recent claim - but otherwise I would have no way of getting g anyone with specialist knowledge about my condition as I still only have the GP and this emergency number myself. Despite having a serious condition and taking very strong medication that should be being monitored and isn't, my GP surgery takes blood etc to ensure there have been no physical adverse affects, but these antipsychotics I am on - risperidone as well as lorazepam, lyrica-pregabalin and fluoxetine are quite serious drugs and my GP is not happy to change these tablets as he didn't prescribe them and is worried that my mental health might deteriorate and there isn't anyone there that can really make that decision. Its a crazy situation TBH..

  • Benistmonk
    Benistmonk Community member Posts: 343 Pioneering
    I agree, it does you good to get it off your chest, I find it relaxes me to share the burden with like minded people who know what you are going through, even if I rant a bit about the injustice of it all. I am pretty sure some DWP and HCP' s read these forums and I dare say some of them post on here as well, so it is nice to be able to say what you think of them.

    Looking on the bright side, I don't think things can get any worse. 
  • MatthewD1985
    MatthewD1985 Community member Posts: 31 Connected
    edited February 2019

    Two words Benistmonk 'Universal' and Credit'!!

    Though saying that I have heard they are considering the option of choosing the payment frequency so it won't be monthly and the 5 week wait problem solved, but that will be new claims and I don't they have started it yet or even agreed it. Politicians are way too wrapped up in Brexit in even think about any of this stuff and surely when we leave they will preoccupied with new trade relations and re structuring the economy. I doubt increasing public spending will be top of the list (even though the reforms have done just that in the DWP). They say they have saved money but that's only because they have closed every other jobcentre taken away crisis loans, community care grants and disability premiums. Its also very difficult to speak to anyone to just sit down with you and go through the claim. I rememeber the days you could go in the job centre to just look for a job or if you wanted to claim you could go in and someone would help you. You could even just get advice etc by just walking in and there was not as much stigma going in then either because anyone would be able to just walk in, some would have their work uniforms just looking to change etc, others looking to claim. But now I feel really embarrassed when I have to go in there because people think your a scrounger and now you are met with sometimes aggressive security asking what you want and you have to wait 2-3 days to talk to anyone with any knowledge.. It wasn't perfect before but this is definitely not better and I hop the politicians find time to change it soon!!

  • RickyMR
    RickyMR Community member Posts: 13 Connected
    As I already knew because I had the Assessors Report I got the bad news today  that I have only been awarded the standard rate daily living and standard rate mobility. I was getting enhanced mobility for life on DLA nd then when changed to PIP I was given the enhanced rate. On the two year review though I have now been given only the stndard rate even though my conditions are worse. I lost it by 2 points on both as my Assessor was completely uninterested in anything I had to say regarding good days and bad days. She seemed determined that I was not going to get the enhanced rates again. I have today telephoned and asked for a Mandatory Reconsideration and followed this up in writing. Wish me luck.
  • ChrizyR
    ChrizyR Community member Posts: 3 Listener
    RickyMR said:
    As I already knew because I had the Assessors Report I got the bad news today  that I have only been awarded the standard rate daily living and standard rate mobility. I was getting enhanced mobility for life on DLA nd then when changed to PIP I was given the enhanced rate. On the two year review though I have now been given only the stndard rate even though my conditions are worse. I lost it by 2 points on both as my Assessor was completely uninterested in anything I had to say regarding good days and bad days. She seemed determined that I was not going to get the enhanced rates again. I have today telephoned and asked for a Mandatory Reconsideration and followed this up in writing. Wish me luck.
    Could I ask how your appeal went?
    I am now in the same boat as you were, whereby I have had the ATOS report and it is totally inaccurate based on my mobility so am expecting the DWP to go along with the assessor's view and award me basic level mobility and daily living allowance!

  • RickyMR
    RickyMR Community member Posts: 13 Connected
    I won my appeal and had the  enhanced daily living and enhanced mobility  reinstated.  The Case Worker for the DWP agreed with me that the Assossor had inacurately not taken into account medical evidence etc. She also had not passed a Hospital report that I had given her to the DWP. She should have scanned it and sent it with her report. I had my money backdated and was awarded until  December 2021.Hopefully the light touch review will soon apply to existing claiment Pensioners due at the end of the Summer?  Good luck and let me know how you get on.

  • ChrizyR
    ChrizyR Community member Posts: 3 Listener
    RickyMR said:
    I won my appeal and had the  enhanced daily living and enhanced mobility  reinstated.  The Case Worker for the DWP agreed with me that the Assossor had inacurately not taken into account medical evidence etc. She also had not passed a Hospital report that I had given her to the DWP. She should have scanned it and sent it with her report. I had my money backdated and was awarded until  December 2021.Hopefully the light touch review will soon apply to existing claiment Pensioners due at the end of the Summer?  Good luck and let me know how you get on.

    Thanks that is great to know!
    The problem I face is that I am only 37 and sometimes because I am younger it goes against me, it just annoys me that some of the assessors jump to all these conclusions based on spending 60 - 90 minutes with you!
    It really made me laugh when the assessor was describing my mobility in the report and started the sentence with "On the balance of probability.......", how they can predict the probability of all my mobility needs based on the 8 steps she had me walk is a total mystery to me!
    Thanks again for the reply.
  • RickyMR
    RickyMR Community member Posts: 13 Connected
    I know. My Sister is having cancer treatment shes 64. Had breast off and 20 lymph nodes removed. Assessor visited her at home. My sister was in pyjamas because has to have someone help dress her. In assessors report said my sister was dressed smart casual and was able to stand on one leg unaided. My Sister wasnt even asked to stand up. Other lies were told. She was only awarded standard daily living. Nothing for mobility. She is appealing of course. How can these assessors be such liars. ?. Im 71 tomorrow.

  • ChrizyR
    ChrizyR Community member Posts: 3 Listener
    edited June 2019
    They are better at lying and bending the truth than politicians! 
    My assessor stated, "he showed no sign of anxiety and seemed quite happy". 
    After the assessor left my dad said I was shaking, making fists and had a foot tap all the way through the interview (so if that is not anxiety I don't know what is) and as for being "quite happy".........well before this began I had a great job, a wife, kids, nice car and a house, now I cannot work, am separated, don't live with my kids, can barely get in and out of the car and live with my parents!  Saying I am "Quite happy" is disgusting and really quite upsetting.  How do they sleep at night knowing they are ruining peoples lives (even more) by making this stuff up!
    I really hope it goes well for your sister and she wins her appeal, 70% of other claimants win at appeal so there is obviously something wrong with the system.  Good luck and happy birthday for tomorrow. (I was 37 yesterday!)
  • RickyMR
    RickyMR Community member Posts: 13 Connected
    Thanks .Happy Birthday to you for yesterday. After my assessment i sat in my car shaking and had to pull myself together before drove home. Assessor also said i showed no sign anxiety. She didnt take into account i am 70 and live on my own and have to manage all my medical conditions on my own. 

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