Pip decision
Today i recieved word from pip through mandatory decision i was not awarded care componant but was given enhanced motability.
Just let you know what i suffer from non epileptic attack disorder. Drop in blood sugar . impingment in shoulders . depression.
I got 2points for to cook by microwave and 2points for supervision for a bath.
12 points as need someone around me when i go out if anyone knows if i should have had more points please can you let me know
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Hi,I'm afraid no one on an internet forum can tell you if you should have scored more points. PIP isnt about a diagnosis, it's how those conditions affect your ability to carry out daily activities based on the PIP descriptors. You'll need to look at the descriptors to see where you can score those extra points. If you can't score those extra points needed for the daily living award then there's no point taking it to Tribunal.I'd advise you to get face to face advice from an advice centre near you.I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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Thank you for your reply
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@ilovecats As I'm sure you're aware some people with severe depression and anxiety can't engage with specialists and struggle to even see their GP. In addition prescribed medication doesn't make much difference to them or can increase suicidal ideation (despite trying different types) so they no longer take these. Therefore, in view of your previous comments would they not "score" for the relevant activities?
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My depression was caused because of pip when the dwp stopped it in december i was suicidal under the gp now see a counsellor every week im on medication also now under the mental health for a while no body should have to be put under the pressure from dwp never mind life goes on still have a great counsellor be seeing him for long time until he thinks im ready to cope on my own .
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ilovecats said:keira said:@ilovecats As I'm sure you're aware some people with severe depression and anxiety can't engage with specialists and struggle to even see their GP. In addition prescribed medication doesn't make much difference to them or can increase suicidal ideation (despite trying different types) so they no longer take these. Therefore, in view of your previous comments would they not "score" for the relevant activities?
I’m not saying it is right or that they aren’t suffering, I myself have been medicated for mental issues which I didn’t find particularly beneficial in the past so I can sympathise.
There has to be a line at which feeling depressed and a ‘bit unmotivated’ turns into overwhelming psychological distress.
It's not right and if I know of two cases I really do wonder how many there are in the rest of the UK playing the system.
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If it wasnt for people on this site giving me advice in december i probably might not be here today the advice gave me strength to fight dwp and gave me faith to go to my gps and get help i needed once again thanks to everyone.
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@ilovecats Thank you for your reply. What happens if they are not managing and all types of specialist input and medication has been exhausted? And I'm talking about someone with overwhelming psychological distress.
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ilovecats said::
And that is why people are sent to face to face assessment. That is also why the assessors use informal observations above the functional history because they carry for evidential weight.
Similarly, I have seen people play down their illnesses due to embarrassment or stoicism and actually I could see they were really struggling and were too prideful to admit it. Those are the cases I liked doing because I felt I was making sure people who needed PIP really got it and for a good length of time.
Not all assessors are heartless cretins :-)
For some, however, their mannerisms and abilities will let them down.
Of the large quantity of different drugs that I personally take, the following four are supposed to give rise to some pretty obvious side effects. Oramorph 600ml a month as and when needed, Sertraline 200mg a day , 90mg MST twice a day and 125mg Pregabalin twice a day.
However I am still able to reasonably have a normal life without those side effects. I do admit to having a strong constitution and an enormous amount of will power which means that I fight my issues daily not wanting to give in to them and any medication does not appear to be a problem.
So whilst claimants like myself would appear to be normal in many respects certainly when talking to people , what is not apparent are the times when in privacy I can drop the persona and just feel like today has been another battle won and tomorrow is another day.
The level of medication and diagnosis is not in doubt at all - there is plenty of evidence to support the issues. The problem is therefore that the person you would see does not match what you would expect to see given the medication and the conditions/side effects/symptoms.
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A nurse assessor who does not know the difference between Osteo and Rheumatoid arthritis and which medication is used for which is to my mind incompetent.
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djbantiques said:A nurse assessor who does not know the difference between Osteo and Rheumatoid arthritis and which medication is used for which is to my mind incompetent.
I have no idea which type my wife has - it's just arthritis to me but given that I know that it causes her difficulties for which she has the day and night award of Attendance Allowance it doesn't matter.
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Yadnad said:djbantiques said:A nurse assessor who does not know the difference between Osteo and Rheumatoid arthritis and which medication is used for which is to my mind incompetent.
I have no idea which type my wife has - it's just arthritis to me but given that I know that it causes her difficulties for which she has the day and night award of Attendance Allowance it doesn't matter.
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djbantiques said:
Besides which PIP is not awarded because of a name put to a disease or condition.
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Yadnad said:djbantiques said:
Besides which PIP is not awarded because of a name put to a disease or condition. -
djbantiques said:Yadnad said:djbantiques said:
Besides which PIP is not awarded because of a name put to a disease or condition.
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djbantiques said:
Yes they are more relevant.
None of my consultants have the faintest of a clue as to how I live my life - it has nothing to do with them - in fact it is of no concern to my GP either. So how can they give an opinion?
An assessor is more qualified to assess function.
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Yadnad said:djbantiques said:
Yes they are more relevant.
None of my consultants have the faintest of a clue as to how I live my life - it has nothing to do with them - in fact it is of no concern to my GP either. So how can they give an opinion?
An assessor is more qualified to assess function.
Just remember, all is not as it seems. -
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djbantiques said:Yadnad said:djbantiques said:
Yes they are more relevant.
None of my consultants have the faintest of a clue as to how I live my life - it has nothing to do with them - in fact it is of no concern to my GP either. So how can they give an opinion?
An assessor is more qualified to assess function.
Just remember, all is not as it seems.
As for your final comment I have no idea to what you refer - the last time I saw something similar was a guy walking around the city with a sandwich board proclaiming that the end is nigh - prepare to meet your maker.
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