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  • Joanne21
    Joanne21 Community member Posts: 11 Connected
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    I went from standard rate care and standard rate mobility to scoring absolutely 0 !!! It just does not make sense 
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  • Joanne21
    Joanne21 Community member Posts: 11 Connected
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    No mine does not state this my last award was awarded in 2016 for a longer period as my needs will be requiring care for a longer period of time and now suddenly I don’t qualify at all 
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  • twonker
    twonker Posts: 617 Pioneering
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    Joanne21 said:
    I am in constant pain with my OA I have an occupational therapist who has supplied me with a bath lift as I can’t get in or out of the bath and also a toilet frame and seat she can’t adapt my stairs and fit a stair lift as I am in private rented accommodation so now my front reception room is being turned into my bedroom I have a riser recliner chair also I take pain medication for my OA. 

    I wonder if you saw my OT from Social Services.
    Mine was as keen as mustard to want to turn my home into something that looked like a care home. Electric bathlift, perching stool, two toilet frames and bigger seats as well as a contraption at the side of the bed to help me get in and out of bed.
    The assessor/DWP decided that only one of those aids would qualify as the others were deemed as being used by way of choice and not need.

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  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Community member Posts: 54,038 Disability Gamechanger
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    @twonker are you a previous poster with a new user name? :o Just curious because most of your posts remind me of someone. The only difference being is that i believe you have a current PIP award, if i'm not mistaken.
    I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.
    If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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  • twonker
    twonker Posts: 617 Pioneering
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    poppy123456 said:
    @twonker are you a previous poster with a new user name? :o Just curious because most of your posts remind me of someone. The only difference being is that i believe you have a current PIP award, if i'm not mistaken.
    This is the second person that has said similar. I posted a reply to ilovecats a week or so ago telling her/him that I am not a previous person.
    For goodness sake.

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  • madquasimodo
    madquasimodo Community member Posts: 140 Pioneering
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    Proving what's wrong is very hard now, its no good just having a doctors letter, you need reports from specialists, sadly even these will cut little ice now, just had a letter (Sat) from assessment centre, "After viewing your complaint the report does contain some errors but  seems fit for purpose, we contacted Mrs* and her response indicated failing in some descriptors and information incorrectly recorded" "We have included the complaint and advised it be used for further training"

    Neurologist, Physio, rehabilitation centre, audiologist reports all account for nothing, 
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  • madquasimodo
    madquasimodo Community member Posts: 140 Pioneering
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    All the reports say what the problem was and how it effected her, Neurologist report says nerve damage and list the balance % and effect on walking, there is some specific details on other functions which are problems now, standing is a problem as due to the damage she thinks she is standing still but is actually falling backwards, the Vestibular nerve has been damaged to the extent of total loss of balance, it was thought BPPV was an issue but this was cleared as a cause. 
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  • twonker
    twonker Posts: 617 Pioneering
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    ilovecats said:


    If the letters said something along the lines of: "Mrs X has a degenerative spine at L5 & 6, and this causes her great pain when moving and bending and impairs her ability to flex forward" then that is medical proof, that cannot be refuted by the assessor.
    You may well have accepted a report of that nature but my assessor did not. It was not even recorded as being used by the DWP.
    Although the report is now some 6 years old, the contents are as of today. You just don't get better or have a reduced impact if you have been assessed by professionals to have a form of dementia. You just don't improve if you have had a head injury plus a whole load of other mental health issues. The report went through all of the tests I have had, what the results were of those tests and finally identifying how the all of that affected my life. 


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  • madquasimodo
    madquasimodo Community member Posts: 140 Pioneering
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    It's a problem for now we will see how it plays out, one issue is the PIP can be assessed by a HCP i.e. anyone with training, paramedic, nurse, physio, but for ESA some illnesses must be assessed by a doctor, the other half had ESA and a full report from the DWP own disability analyst, pretty much the same as the Neurologist report, she cant stand or walk in a straight line, movement poor (has been since surgery) but because the PIP don't need to assess medical conditions the same way, she gets marked down even with the reports.  
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