Complaints about PIP assessments up 6,000 per cent in three years
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WF2k said:Yeah, hope it went well.
I need to try and stop feeling angry.. silly assessor trying to say I don't have mental health problems...
https://testandcalc.com/Richard/resources/Teaching_Resource_Mental_Status_Examination.pdf
It's not entirely carried out by questioning but instead by watching. The assessor will try to justify their opinion by listening to what you say and how you look. Looking clean and tidy would not indicate a mental health problem etc
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twonker said:WF2k said:Yeah, hope it went well.
I need to try and stop feeling angry.. silly assessor trying to say I don't have mental health problems...
https://testandcalc.com/Richard/resources/Teaching_Resource_Mental_Status_Examination.pdf
It's not entirely carried out by questioning but instead by watching. The assessor will try to justify their opinion by listening to what you say and how you look. Looking clean and tidy would not indicate a mental health problem etctwonker said:WF2k said:Yeah, hope it went well.
I need to try and stop feeling angry.. silly assessor trying to say I don't have mental health problems...
https://testandcalc.com/Richard/resources/Teaching_Resource_Mental_Status_Examination.pdf
It's not entirely carried out by questioning but instead by watching. The assessor will try to justify their opinion by listening to what you say and how you look. Looking clean and tidy would not indicate a mental health problem etc
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@twonker no offence but I have you on ignore for a reason, I already know how it works, I am not stupid, I've read what ilovecats and such have said in their posts. The assessor was looking at his laptop most of the time and you CAN'T possibly know how someone is 50% of the time by a 60 minute assessment, also everyone is different, plus he pretty much went against the first assessors report and ignored a GP letters, psychiatrist report/letter and so on.
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@Gerald I sent you an inbox with an apology.
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Hi WF2k there is no need to send me a apology after all that I had to put up with about this and there way the assessment is done for mental health is just wrong as how the hell can the assessor I had come up with is assessment after seeing me for 30 mins it is BS and then you get you cannot say a word about the assessor as knows all in 30 mins and then I end up with 19 months of hell and at one point thinking about ending it all so as far as I see the ? Hole can go to hell. sorry about the last bit but it gets me so mad and thinking that this is still going on to this day its just wrong.
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Yeah, I just felt bad for snapping at someone in your thread lol, but I've I've explained in my pm anyway.
It's pretty degrading in all fairness, I'm sorry it affected you like that I'm glad you won your tribunal, not that you should have had to take it to a tribunal. -
twonker said:Looking clean and tidy would not indicate a mental health problem etc
I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help. -
I agree with Poppy.
The thing is, I didn't look clean and tidy at my assessment, I hadn't showered for 2 - 3 weeks, my Son usually prompts me to shower and even then I don't always do it because I'm too tired, sore, don't feel like it etc. sometimes he literally has to nag me to shower or my Mum will ask what that smell is.. which is pretty embarrassing. I was also in my pj's and yet he claimed I was kempt, in appropriate clothing etc. So yeah I don't think it matters either way. -
I have no idea, it was a home assessment, I wouldn't attend a centre in pj's due to my anxiety. He made out I was bouncing my leg for 10 minutes, I was shaking for most of the assessment and was totally wiped out after it. Me stuttering and my son having to help me etc. has all been recorded anyway (with permission).
Thanks for explaining @ilovecats
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axwy62 said:The nurse that assessed me couldn't see my wheelchair and, even though I remained in my chair throughout, imagined me walking more than 50 metres in a room less than 5 metres long - I'm sure I'd remember walking round in circles! I have my next assessment this afternoon, and I'm expecting more of the same.
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poppy123456 said:twonker said:Looking clean and tidy would not indicate a mental health problem etc
Obviously your daughter looking clean and tidy was down to you and as long as you can get the assessor to accept that then it would not go against her.
If on the other hand you go into an assessment looking clean and tidy and no one with you and you not highlighting that to get into that condition required input from another then it would go against you. At the end of the day it is down to the assessor believing your statement.
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ilovecats said:The MSE is a holistic overview of how you present at assessment in that moment only.
Just because someone is having a good day and is able to have a shower and turn up looking clean does not mean they do not have mental health problems.
Just because someone is able to converse well does not mean they don’t hear voices or feel suicidal.
I gave up after that with making any reference to mental health in following re-assessments believing that I would not be believed no matter what.
Maybe however they thought I was playing them?
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