Woodbine
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And this is what happens when a perfectly normal discussion turns into people haveing a go for no reason
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@Cressida, I completely understand and please don’t take offence, I meant none whatsoever. I was simply posting one day and suddenly I received the title, in my case it is without any real foundation as I’d be very surprised if I’d actually helped anyone at all as yet. Perhaps tomorrow ?
“This is my simple religion. No need for temples. No need for complicated philosophy. Your own mind, your own heart is the temple. Your philosophy is simple kindness.”
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@lisathomas50 this thread was started as a support to Woodbine. Your comment appears to be putting the boot in. Sometimes its better to say nothing if you don't agree.
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Cressida said:@lisathomas50 this thread was started as a support to Woodbine. Your comment appears to be putting the boot in. Sometimes its better to say nothing if you don't agree.
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@woodbine this is not aimed at you this is in general what I have learnt in life is that people are replacable other people will come along with the same knowledge or better
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@Cressida I am not putting the boot in I am putting things into perspective that game changers aren't above anyone else
In a message received from woodbine he doesn't expect to be treated differently but equally I have alot of respect for woodbine and he feels very humble for all of your support
I am just haveing a discussion and not haveing a dig or putting the boot in -
@Cress there are new people comeing on here all the time people I have made friends with have gone or stopped posting but that's life
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Oh dear, some people just can't help their self can they. They always need to have the last word!I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help.
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Scope can you please take @woodbine off moderation so thst he can post as normal on Tuesday
At the moment woodbine is going through a rough time I think that not being able to post since yesterday has been punishment enough
If you can let @woodbine post as normal from Tuesday as this week is going to be a tough time for him and he needs his friends on here
Myself and woodbine have had our ups and downs but I still respect him so I am asking that scope lift the moderation so that woodbine gets the support he needs and is haveing investigations for cancer and needs that support
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@poppy123456 you don't know me very well then
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Lisa, i would apppreciate it if you stopped tagging me.
I would appreciate it if members wouldn't tag me please. I have all notifcations turned off and wouldn't want a member thinking i'm being rude by not replying.If i see a question that i know the answer to i will try my best to help. -
I apologise ?
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Perhaps, unfortunately, I've never found people irreplaceable....mea culpa. I have been here because people matter to me.I feel there's a problem, & will liken it to a PIP appeal. With that, the tribunal just have to consider 'on the balance of probabilities' if the claimant should be awarded or not.So, bringing this back to a thread about @woodbine , on the balance of probabilities, has he done more good than harm, & was there ever any intent to cause such perceived harm? Just my opinion, but the short answer is a resounding 'no.' Did another member accuse him of any wrong-doing, or was the perceived 'harm' from a moderator? I feel there's a difference between the two; perhaps not? The community's guidelines should perhaps just be that, 'guidelines', & then any judgement should be made with some understanding of the individuals concerned, together with a tad of common sense.I do feel everyone here should be 'moderated' in exactly the same way regardless of how long a member has been here, but perhaps with a modicum of respect as to what some have tried to do to help the community. Say a wrong word, & it appears you are judged....another member can say what they will, & are perceived as almost invariably correct. This to my mind needs redressing, & communication between the claimant, & another who has 'apparently' breached the community's guidelines should take place before Scope decide what to do. Surely that's fair to everyone, & logical?@Cressida thank you for your lovely reply in supporting John, but also for your very correct feeling that perhaps some of us will be driven away by the moderators, who will not tolerate personal abuse, which on the whole some of us have had to tolerate.....@leeCal you are a very kind, helpful & supportive member; long may it continue.@janer1967 thank you for supporting John; for your kind comments & support. @Cress for your much needed sense of humour, thank you too.
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Hi every one just seen this post wanna sending my support for @poppy123456 and @woodbine nice to see friends sticking up for each other .I have been on this forum for nearly a year a I think and I have seen it massively change . I look to this forum for support , to speak to my friends , for advice and to hopefully help other people and show my support as many of us do .I think some times people forget that we are all disabled or know some one who’s disabled but I think most of the members on here have a disability . And those members who took time out of there day to help provide good advice to people advice that personally you couldn’t get at citizens advice And to see those members criticised for giving advice is heart breaking .I’m very upset that @poppy123456 left the forum the forum and the members mean a lot to her and she gave good factual advise And she shows so much support to members it’s a shame she felt she had to leave you are truly missed .@woodbine is a long standing respected member Who has always given great factual and supportive advice and has always has kind words to say to me when I haven’t been well. I’m sorry that you feel that way wood bine I don’t like any one feeling sad . I don’t see what you have done wrong personally. I’m sorry that this has happened and also I’m sorry to hear bout your health worries I wish you all the very best . I hope you will be able to post again soon .And I must say that there are some people that are not replaceable there a lot of people who I call my friends on here and they are not replaceable .Last time I ended up defending a forum member I started to get really upset and use cus words which I don’t want to do but I will say there is some proper bull s*** going on on this forum lately . I think woodbine should be able to post and I don’t want any one else to leave . And if admin want to ban me for saying bullsh*** then they can it’s my opinion .Much love to every one .
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Mike if woodbine had been suspended instead of moderated would that of made things any better? I am just asking the question
On other sites yes people get suspended but that is what is different about scope they try to treat us like adults and hope that when a polite warning is either posted on here or by email that we take it on board
Which ever way you look at it on this forum we all come under the same rules so anyone of us can be put under moderation
From what I can gather I could be wrong its woodbines first time on moderation it has resly upset him and from what has been said a bit of shock
I have asked for woodbine to be taken off moderation due to him haveing news that he does need support for from friends and the people on the forum
It's not that I don't agree with moderation and if I was put on moderation I would accept it and move on from it
If scope do remove woodbine from moderation and woodbine breached the rules after it was lifted then nothing could be said as woodbine knows what the consequences are and knows what is expected and hope that woodbine would accept that would happen
The only reason this thread is happening is because woodbine chose to let people know through another person and also on private message and that is fine there is nothing wrong with that
As long as its discussed in a fair manner and not as above in only a couple of posts mentioning other posters and haveing a go becsuse they don't like what another poster had said
What people need to decide in my opinion is do people want scope to take action when posters break the rules and conditions if they do then people have to face the consequences -
Following numerous reports this thread is now closed, pending review.
A few quick notes:
While I don't know the minutiae of why Woodbine is on moderation, even when I do, we will not be engaging in a public discussion regarding this as we've always had a policy of confidentiality. He is certainly not the only active member on moderation. However, I will try to reply to specific queries regarding the process or suggestions for improvement.
I'd also like to add, whatever the circumstances, circumventing moderation by creating additional accounts, or having friends post content on behalf of another member who is on moderation (however well-intentioned) is not acceptable.
The moderation process takes time and we aim to review and post messages within 24 hours. The post in question was initially posted outside of staff hours and is still sat in a queue waiting to be reviewed.
Scope like every organisation, is juggling furloughed staff, reduced hours, staff leave, holidays and illness and yesterday none of the team were available, although I did pop on briefly in my own time to check for safeguarding issues and approved a few simple posts from the moderation queue.
As a side note: I don't start until 9 and it appears I have a lot of catching up to do and am the only team member on shift until much later so it may take a little longer to review this thread than usual.Community Manager
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I am truly grateful to @poppy123456 for coming back to support me, words cannot explain how much I appreciate it.
I would also like to thank other people who have emailed their support.
John x2024 The year of the general election...the time for change is coming 💡 -
I have written a reply to this thread which so far hasn't had approval?2024 The year of the general election...the time for change is coming 💡
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I keep trying to reply to these messages of support but they are getting past the moderators.2024 The year of the general election...the time for change is coming 💡
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I'm not sure the moderators will sanction this as they have already refused to publish some of the help I have given tonight. But I wonder do they realise just how utterly degrading it is to go to the trouble of writing out a reply only to see that it won't be published until "somebody" approves it? It makes me feel like a three year old.
I'm told my moderation will last until they think I am a fit and proper person to partake in the usual way, that makes me feel sick to my stomach, this whole thing is making me feel ill. All at a time when I have the threat of being told I have cancer dangling over my head.
I'm also threatened with being told I am to be chucked off scope, something that for me like many others has been a lifeline to me over the past year, and yet they think its there's to take from me.
You might ask why? Well it's all because I dare from time to time call it as i see it, no mention of the hundreds of my post that have been flagged as "liked" or inspiring, that's all gone in the scope dustbin.
I hope who does hold this power over me has the bottle to "approve" this post and that the real powers that be read it and realise exactly what has been done to me here.
I hope I get the chance to be with you again, but if I don't then at least now you will know the reason, that being very simple some peoples mental welfare is thought to be more important to scope than mine.
good night
John2024 The year of the general election...the time for change is coming 💡
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