Why are physical disabilities dismissed?

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Sianl
Sianl Online Community Member Posts: 6 Listener
in PIP, DLA, ADP and AA
Hi, I have just lost my enhanced mobility rate and now have to hand back my motability car. I understand that mental health problems have to be taken into consideration now but what I don't understand is why physical disabilities do not matter now? The assessor agrees that I cannot follow a journey and go out unaided due to physical reasons but because I am mentally stable I no longer qualify for the enhanced rate.

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  • janer1967
    janer1967 Online Community Member Posts: 21,922 Championing
    Hi and welcome 

    I think that is a generalised opinion based on your own
    Experience and I am sorry you have lost your enhanced award 

    I get enhanced for pure physical disabilities as do others 

    You can challenge the decision and submit a mr 
  • Sianl
    Sianl Online Community Member Posts: 6 Listener
    I have challenged it and I got my MR back yesterday. I've been online and it says that the planning and following a journey is about how you are affected mentally not physically, hence my question. I used to get the enhanced based on physical but the rules have changed. 
  • joethebear
    joethebear Online Community Member Posts: 18 Connected
    Totally agree my physical disabilities make it impossible to plan and follow a journey but because it's not a mental disability you get no points for planning even though it's traumatising , I know you start at the bottom of Everest to climb it but couldn't do it ! Is that planning and following a journey ?? 
  • janer1967
    janer1967 Online Community Member Posts: 21,922 Championing
    Physical disabilities are covered in the moving around walking descriptor 
  • Sianl
    Sianl Online Community Member Posts: 6 Listener
    So did I Woodbine but I no longer receive it now because I am "mentally stable" 
  • cupcake88
    cupcake88 Posts: 1,414 Trailblazing
    I get enhanced for daily living and lower for Mobility i do have a mental illness I don’t get pip for physical disability for mental illness . The mobility descriptors are in two parts . I don’t think dwp  favour mental illness disabilities over physical disabilities. Plenty of people get pip enhance mobility for physical disabilities. I would suggest appealing if your not happy good luck with it , 
  • Sianl
    Sianl Online Community Member Posts: 6 Listener
    Janer 1967 I'm not talking about the moving around/how far you can walk question. I'm talking about the "being able to plan and follow a journey unaided" it has been changed so your physical disabilities do not matter, they are only interested in how it affects you mentally. 
  • Sianl
    Sianl Online Community Member Posts: 6 Listener
    joethebear said:
    Totally agree my physical disabilities make it impossible to plan and follow a journey but because it's not a mental disability you get no points for planning even though it's traumatising , I know you start at the bottom of Everest to climb it but couldn't do it ! Is that planning and following a journey ?? 
    Exactly. It makes no sense, they have changed the rules so people with mental health problems aren't discriminated against yet they are now discriminating against those who struggle due to physical issues. 
  • cupcake88
    cupcake88 Posts: 1,414 Trailblazing
    I think you are entitled to your opinion but I find what you just said very offensive I’m entitled to pip as much as any one else with a physical disability 
  • calcotti
    calcotti Online Community Member Posts: 10,001 Championing
    Sianl said: Exactly. It makes no sense, they have changed the rules so people with mental health problems aren't discriminated against yet they are now discriminating against those who struggle due to physical issues. 
    The planning and following journeys descriptor addresses mental health.
    The moving around descriptor addresses physical difficulties.
    It would make no sense for the planning and following journeys descriptor to also take into account physical difficulties.

  • joethebear
    joethebear Online Community Member Posts: 18 Connected
    The quality of evidence is right but I could submit the same to three different assessment s and get different results ! What the original question was I think was why people with physical disabilities are getting no points on planning a journey even though it's impossible to go out without help , and vice versa I would think you are entitled to points on both ?? The telephone assessment worked for me but I was reviews by a lovely person who genuinely cared about my disabilities , pretty rare by the reports on here 
  • OverlyAnxious
    OverlyAnxious Online Community Member Posts: 4,712 Championing
    As someone with both mental & physical issues that make it near impossible to get out, let alone travel far or stay out for long, I don't qualify for ANY mobility...  There has to be a cut-off somewhere, some of us will always slip through the net when they have very specific descriptors.  It's not about mental vs physical, it's far more restrictive than that.
  • Sianl
    Sianl Online Community Member Posts: 6 Listener
    cupcake88 said:
    I think you are entitled to your opinion but I find what you just said very offensive I’m entitled to pip as much as any one else with a physical disability 
    Where did I say you weren't entitled to pip? 
  • joethebear
    joethebear Online Community Member Posts: 18 Connected
    I must be reading comments from a different site then , people saying ,very abrupt , wouldn't give me time to answer , sniggering in background , not listening , loaded questions and assumptions ! I bow to the experts on here and feel sorry for the people this is happening to ! It's easy knowing how to prepare a case when used to it but I find it patronising saying your evidence isn't good enough to someone maybe in this minefield for the first time and struggling  , I have already said I had a  good outcome and had a lovely person interviewing me but I still say it was my lucky day as many just go through the motions box ticking and are pretty much desensitised end of that's me done !

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