Changes to PIP

Ironside1990 said:

Giving people vouchers instead of money, makes the PIP name meaningless. 

It's called Personal Independence Payment for a reason. At least the cash payments give us financial Independence.

PIP is a passported benefit. If you get the higher rate, it means you are entitled to go on the Motability scheme, Blue badges and other things. People will have to give up their mobility cars if cash payments were stopped. 

I think this rumoured voucher scheme is stupid. How can the government say that the welfare bill is too high and then think about stopping cash to give people vouchers. The cost in printing vouchers and admin would be a fortune.

I am glad you can see through their lies when they say that the government is "broke".

Meg24 said:

AndrewHall said:

Ironside1990 said:

Giving people vouchers instead of money, makes the PIP name meaningless. 

It's called Personal Independence Payment for a reason. At least the cash payments give us financial Independence.

PIP is a passported benefit. If you get the higher rate, it means you are entitled to go on the Motability scheme, Blue badges and other things. People will have to give up their mobility cars if cash payments were stopped. 

I think this rumoured voucher scheme is stupid. How can the government say that the welfare bill is too high and then think about stopping cash to give people vouchers. The cost in printing vouchers and admin would be a fortune.

I am glad you can see through their lies when they say that the government is "broke".

Literally the day after they announced the PIP cuts they announced a further £76Billion for defence spending.

We're not too broke for yet more willie waving apparently...

ah they have built up the gold reserves from labour slip up last time in power they do say 2 eyes are better than one lol

Hello All.  Well. I've read and read, not just on here but on the gov site too, I've this has been going on since february.  I cannot keep quiet any longer.  I've never felt so stressed and I've had some stressful moments in my life, believe me.
Ok so here it is in short.....ish. 
60 years young worked all my life up until 16 years ago. Had to finish work.  Hubby the same two years older, always worked.  four weeks after I finished, he had Heart Attack.  Heart Op sorted him out and he has now turned  into my carer. Had income support, higher level.  PIus Carers Allowance.  then onto PIP, They cut me down, then again.  In Feb, 2024 I was asessed again.  I was awarded nothing at all.  Also, I noticed that none of our benefit had gone into the bank.  It took me the best part of a week to find out that I would have to put in for universal credit.  No housing benefit, No council tax benefit.  a few weeks on.....Rent team telling me what they are going to do in taking next steps in repossesing our  home.  They do not recognise my doctors reason for my sick note and will make up their own minds if they think I am fit for work.  we now get universal credit.  £800 monthly 500 Rent and 270 direct debits.  pip??  oh, they will let me know when they have done a reconsidoration. |I'm not holding my breath.  
I've told my husband and daughter I've found a wonderful cheerful group of people.  And now I've just gone and shown my worst side.  When people say about mental health and how it can affect your life, you don't know until you''ve been there.  Yes I've suffered with anxiety and depression in the past but these dirty tricks to do on people who would really prefer not to be claiming in the first place.  It is sickening.  I cannot see any good coming our way soon.  If they are dismissing the words my doctor wrote on a 3 month sick note.  They've not even asked me to fill in the form to apply for the extra benefit yet.  Sorry to have taken up so much of the precious post.  Take Care all. Netty.

Luchia said:

OverlyAnxious said:

Luchia said:

Rather than target genuinely suffering people with MH & Physical disabilities they should be going after the ridiculous amount of fake claimers, There’s an excellent documentary series on 4 that called “Benefits Britain” & “Skint Britain” that blatantly show people with absolutely 0 need for benefits and are perfectly able to work but as quoted from one of the people on that show “Why work when I can get it all for free”.

I've never understood this mentality.  Personally I hate not being able to work.  Even assuming they feel no guilt for taking money they haven't 'earnt', how on earth do they manage to fill their days without working? 

Couldn’t agree more, I held onto my job until it was physically impossible to continue, I was warned by Doctors for several months before I had to hand in my notice but I just couldn’t physically do it anymore. 

I highly recommend watching “Skint Britain” as the people on it are absolutely disgusting and definitely earned the title of “Scroungers”.
They show absolutely 0 guilt or remorse and even brag how easy it was to get thousands in benefits for doing nothing, that’s who they need to target 

I’ve watched that. It’s shocking. It’s not bad enough we have to go through hell to even get pip. Fight fight is all we ever do. We can never even have a day without a new threat of some kind. Pip is as we know personal y payment. They can’t turn it into controlled payment as they will be disabling us totally. I agree no medical evidence no money but us that have multiple problems with evidence leave us alone. 

I find it strange you didn’t even answer the first half of the msgletitbe said:

AndrewHall said:

@cazdee


I think you are going off course here.  Yes, Government send money to other countries but it is to help them to fight and kill each other and to cause instability in those countries.  So don't blame people fleeing such countries. 

Also, if there is no "foreigner" coming here, that doesn't mean the Government would treat disabled and vulnerable people better.

Totally agree with you ! 

Every time this proposed pip reform turns into a thread it ends up in arguments and disagreements. 

I know it's hard and there's a lot riding on this proposed pip reform but you really must not let this get to you, again all of this rides on the Tories winning the next election. 

I endorse any political party who realises that disabled people are human beings who deserve to be treated with compassion and respect. PIP provides disabled people in or out of work with further financial stability, stability is important in our lives, especially when you're in some form disabled.

Sorry for the long comment, I checked my emails and saw the replies to this thread. I get upset because people are upset and this government knows we're upset and they don't care because they want the money.

Goodness, the form is, so long and complicated. You need a PhD to complete the form. They hardly make anything easy for us, do they?

Yes you are right it’s just outrageous how many times we fight the same thing. It’s exhausting

I know you’re right it’s appalling that it’s even debatable. They are trying to disable us by taking everything away it’s terrible