Opinions Please?

Tonawanda17
Tonawanda17 Community Member Posts: 182 Contributor
edited July 2024 in Benefits and income

Hi

I'm new here. I suffer with some mental health issues and am nearvous about bank spying thing

. What does everyone think to this article ? Thanks

https://www.osborneclarke.com/insights/what-does-uk-general-election-2024-mean-digital-and-data-policy-and-tmc-sector

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  • Tonawanda17
    Tonawanda17 Community Member Posts: 182 Contributor

    Hi. Somesone please speak to me I only want peoples opinions on this please.

    https://www.osborneclarke.com/insights/what-does-uk-general-election-2024-mean-digital-and-data-policy-and-tmc-sector

  • Adrian_Scope
    Adrian_Scope Posts: 14,626 Online Community Programme Lead

    Hello @Tonawanda17, the article is only speculation and was written before the election. I know it is easier said than done, but please try not to worry too much about it, especially before anything is confirmed.

  • Meg24
    Meg24 Community Member Posts: 387 Trailblazing

    The facts at present are that the Tory proposed law on this did not get time to pass into legislation before the election, so is now dead.

    Whether Labour decide to resurrect it or draft a bill of their own is not known.

    So, reprieve for now, but as with all things, we don't know what the new government plans to do.

  • Dave1993
    Dave1993 Community Member Posts: 175 Empowering

    you only need to worry about bank spying if you have something to hide so if you have nothing to hide don't worry about it

  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,686 Championing

    I agree with @Biblioklept here. I like to think about it like, imagine if a landlord could enter your home whenever they want, even when you aren't there. At first they say it's just to check the… electricity meter. But once he's in your house he could be checking other things inside your house, and how would you know if you aren't there?

    I'm not saying the current government would do that, but the concern is future governments. What if they decide to use the data in a way you disagree?

  • Tonawanda17
    Tonawanda17 Community Member Posts: 182 Contributor

    Hi All, i'm not sure if the new government will do this or not. I read somewhere that they voted to support it (last year) but then also read that they support the bill but abstained from the vote. As has been said earlier labour peers are against it. Also, our new PM was human rights lawyer. Thoughts please

  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,686 Championing

    It's early days, Parliament hasn't even started up again yet! I really cannot say if they will bring it up again or not. I will say though, the way they are talking, it seems like feedback will be taken more seriously under this new government.

  • Tonawanda17
    Tonawanda17 Community Member Posts: 182 Contributor

    Thanks Jimm. I don't imagine it would be a top priority for them for now either.

  • Tonawanda17
    Tonawanda17 Community Member Posts: 182 Contributor

    Hi. Can someone give me their opinion of this i just found. Its long but does mention using A.I. to detect fraud. Does this mean they will be going to check our accounts? Sorry to keep posting.

    https://www.institute.global/insights/politics-and-governance/reimagining-uk-department-for-work-and-pensions

  • JessieJ
    JessieJ Community Member Posts: 1,386 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/885889#Comment_885889

    Spot on, @Biblioklept!

    Do like your borrowed line, will try to remember that.

  • apple85
    apple85 Community Member Posts: 853 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/886551#Comment_886551

    that’s from Tony Blair’s thinktank right?

    personally Tony Blair started ‘open season’ on the disabled + welfare (and he’s been heavily criticised on Twitter) for being videoed in a speech this week implying blame on the disabled

    There’s always been a concern that Blair could be a puppet master behind the scenes if labour got in but an effective puppet master does so from the shadows - but Blair is just running his mouth and honestly one of starmers cabinet needs to public ally remind Blair of his irrelevance (and that he’s publicly hated by much of the public)

    But to your actual question

    I think that there’s no escaping that ai usage is going to grow massively across all sectors over the next decade. However (and I know this is silly fictional logic on my part) when anyone mentions ai I keep thinking “did no one learn anything from the terminator movies!”.

    I think that the current rate that ai is growing is scary and that ai can’t replicate basic humanity

    Ai is causing havoc in many industries already and the post office horizon situation should be enough of a reason not to run headfirst in letting ai help make human level decision


    I personally believe ai has no place being heavily used to make decisions on welfare for societies most vulnerable and should be used very very sparingly in the dwp (Blair’s viewpoint is quite frankly dangerous)

    And if ai is that great and going to replace so many jobs down the line then surely some of that can be used by the gov to part fund things like universal basic income? (That’s a bit of a silly theory on my part - I’m no expert on ai but I’ve seen the potential havoc it’s already causing in some creative and media job sectors and it’s already devaluing certain humans skills such as creating orignal art and mirroring an actors voice, etc…)

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