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  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,717 Championing

    @66Mustang Well, there's certainly some benefits to a wheelchair! I'm not a wheelchair user, but I can't imagine it makes up for the inconvenience society has left in place for wheelchair users, but at least there are some perks.

    @talis I'm sorry to hear that talis, I've had days like that before with my Crohns. Do you have a hospital clinic team you can contact at all?

    @Lou67 That sounds like fun! What would you get your face painted as? 😋 I can't get my face painted, I don't know why but I had it done once as a child and my skin reacted and it felt like it was burning. Had to wash it off asap.

    @rubin16 Enjoy the greggs! I think it's the only "fast food" type place I still visit. I haven't been to a mcdonalds, burger king, KFC now in years. Still enjoy Greggs though.

  • Lou67
    Lou67 Online Community Member Posts: 8,705 Championing

    @Marydoll5
    I’m so happy for yous it’s so good yous can get away to your holiday home ( how posh ) 😊 anytime yous want.
    We have a Scottish holiday here to yesterday was Fair Friday it’s actually an old holiday it’s Fair Fortnight. Years ago all the factory’s and works in Glasgow finished up on Fair Friday but it’s a shame as now you’d hardly even realise it.

    Anyway I rabbled on there lol I hope you enjoy your day.

    ❤️

  • Marydoll5
    Marydoll5 Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 658 Championing

    @Jimm_Scope no apology needed!!!

    Glad it didn't disappear 😊

  • Lou67
    Lou67 Online Community Member Posts: 8,705 Championing

    @Jimm_Scope
    Hi I hope your keeping well. I was actually joking about the face painting lol but I might just do it to cheer my grandkids up and let them choose what I get done. 😊

  • 66Mustang
    66Mustang Online Community Member Posts: 14,991 Championing

    @Jimm_Scope

    I know it's not considered an acceptable thing to say these days, but my uncle was the first to admit, his disability was very much down to his lifestyle - he was a very unserious man and he used to joke that the only reason he used to use his legs was to walk to the pub so if someone had to lose their legs, at least it wasn't somebody more active 😂

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 62,770 Championing

    Typical missed my bus back by literally seconds , got to wait 25 minutes now. I've signed up with boots to get my scripts and deliver them.

  • 66Mustang
    66Mustang Online Community Member Posts: 14,991 Championing

    That's a shame @Sandy_123

    We just walked Jenson for 3 miles

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 62,770 Championing

    Thats a good walk @66Mustang keeps you and Jenson fit. I'm home now resting with a coffee

  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,717 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/888140#Comment_888140

    I hate it when that happens too Sandy! Worse when the bus is every hour like it can be in my area.

    and then even worse when the bus an hour later doesn't turn up at all due to driver shortages.

  • 66Mustang
    66Mustang Online Community Member Posts: 14,991 Championing

    I have a lot of respect for bus drivers

    They get just over minimum wage for driving round towns and dealing with traffic and handling the customers as well

    Train drivers just go in a straight line and don't have any interaction with the passengers but they get £75,000+ a year

    I might have ready misinformation here, but if it is true, I wonder how that's fair??

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 62,770 Championing

    Our bus drivers went on strike last year and got a very good pay rise. Of course the bus fair went up to support it. Getting 18.43 and hour.

    It is annoying @Jimm_Scope

  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,717 Championing

    I have a friend in the bus industry actually, the reason there is a constant shortage of bus drivers is that all the private bus companies don't bother training new drivers as much as poaching drivers from other companies. Because it's much cheaper to give a bus driver from another company a slightly better offer than it is to train a new driver just for them to be poached by another private bus company.

    So they're all just taking drivers from each other and not training enough new drivers to keep up with demand and older drivers retiring.

  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,717 Championing
    edited July 2024
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/888166#Comment_888166

    What is a job worth? Is that an easy question to answer?

    What should they earn? Are they earning too much, or are other jobs earning too little?

  • 66Mustang
    66Mustang Online Community Member Posts: 14,991 Championing
    edited July 2024

    The thing is, why would someone train as a bus driver for £18 an hour when a train driver gets like 2-3 times that

    I remember looking into being a pilot, this was over 10 years ago so prices will be different with inflation

    It was £250,000 to train to be a pilot so over a 30 year career it costs you £11-12,000 a year with interest

    A train driver earns about £10,000 less than a pilot a year so you're better off being a train driver

    Obviously if you became a pilot for free via the RAF or just because it's something you love then that would sway it but the numbers were quite interesting to me

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 62,770 Championing

    It is crazy my daughter in law gets a stupid wage in police force putting herself in dangerous positions where my son earns more with less danger. Same as drs nurses etc. Retail workers get same as carers. It's all muddled up isn't it

  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,717 Championing
    edited July 2024
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/888175#Comment_888175

    See, I look at that and question, not are train drivers being paid too much, but are bus drivers and pilots being paid too little?

    As @Sandy_123 says, the police (the police cannot legally strike!), carers, nurses, doctors, they earn so much less, but is that the train drivers fault? I think we should be asking why these aren't earning as much, and why they are earning so much less, than asking why train drivers earn as much as they do, and suggest they earn less.

    I'd rather make all the other jobs better off, than drag one job down.

    edit: Might be a good topic for a separate discussion? 😋 don't want to take up too much space about a specific topic here!

  • 66Mustang
    66Mustang Online Community Member Posts: 14,991 Championing

    @Sandy_123

    In fairness in the police if the danger gets the better of you you get your pension maxxed out to 35 years, even if you have only done like 2 years, and should be financially OK for the rest of your life

    I do know what you mean about danger though!! My brother is a tree surgeon, he gets like £15 an hour for climbing up a tree with a chainsaw and stuff but if he gets injured he gets statutory sick pay which is like £17 a day

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 62,770 Championing

    Yes would be a good thread if anyone wants to start it lol

  • Jimm_Alumni
    Jimm_Alumni Scope alumni Posts: 5,717 Championing

    If anyone else fancies adding I made a discussion here:

    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/119996/what-is-a-job-worth

    😊 I think it's an interesting discussion, because there are quite a few different ways you can approach it, and it touches on about what do we actually 'value'?

  • Sandy_123
    Sandy_123 Scope Member Posts: 62,770 Championing

    Awww @jean79 that's really nice to have the help with lunch shows she's a good one to have around

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