Here we go again

apples
apples Community Member Posts: 562 Empowering
in Benefits and income

pick on the sick when there is x amount of fit abled bodies out there


https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/crazy-welfare-system-needs-reform-labour-adviser-warns-government/

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  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Community Member Posts: 506 Empowering

    there's able bodied & minded people that chose not to work, surely they should be the ones targeted not the long term disabled. People on GB news etc saying 'oh it's beneficial to work if feeling depressed or anxious', makes my blood boil.. I wish i could show them my scars, they have no idea.. People that enforce this will have a lot of blood on their hands

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,469 Championing

    Talk tv, radio the same. They pick on us because we are easy prey. What about able bodied people who get some sort of benefits, Are they going to be forced to work. I doubt it

  • Meg24
    Meg24 Community Member Posts: 387 Trailblazing

    I can't engage directly with the DWP, I have all my assessments done on paper and if I've needed help in the past I've had to get benefits advisors to do it for me.

    Does he actually think that people with severe MH issues have a 'duty to engage' ? Because if that happens, that's a quick way to get rid of us...

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Community Member Posts: 506 Empowering
    edited July 2024

    Doesn't this hideous act against the ill & vulnerable have to go through parliament before anything happens?, surely there can't be that many Labour mp's that would agree with this as i guess there will be many of their constituents wanting appointments at their surgery.. Surgery.. how the irony.

  • deelee
    deelee Scope Member Posts: 77 Empowering

    I noticed the same thing - they dont seem to consider a person may not be able to work or find a job that fits with their disability. The silence of the government about support for those who cant work is simply not an option it seems and I agree with others opinions here that most pip reviews are for 2027 and the fazing out of ESA etc…

    It is incredibly sad that disabled people who have been through so much are once again being treated as the problem when it comes to balancing the the books. There is money to send weapons of destruction to bomb other countries but not for the disabled. If we can borrow to fund never ending wars then what about protecting the most vulnerable in society?

    I fear that in the future that even if disabled people are "lucky enough" to have such severe disabilities that they are unable to work, that they will be given food vouchers and a pittance to live on.

    Labour seem no different to the Tories when it comes to being harsh and cruel when it comes to benefits which they seem to forget is supposed to be there as safety net.

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,469 Championing
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/893204#Comment_893204

    Yes find £84 million to send to Africa etc for ending migration, this crazy plan Stamer come up.with.

    Won't work. But this money should be used for UK and not to pick on disabled people. Why can't they separate people who able bodied who can and wont work and those with mental health and physical health who can't . It's not that difficult surely

  • deelee
    deelee Scope Member Posts: 77 Empowering
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/893263#Comment_893263

    Yes so true…and it is not so difficult - its almost as if they chose not to….

  • [Deleted User]
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  • judie
    judie Community Member Posts: 336 Empowering
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/893399#Comment_893399

    It just gets worse. What part of totally unable to work or engage with job centre do they not get?! It's like if they pronounce, so must it be.

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Community Member Posts: 506 Empowering

    Does anyone think it would be good to contact her & show her the link to this thread??.. She will have a lot of blood on her hands if this goes through, i'd gladly show her my scars.. So many people on news & current affairs shows saying it's good for mental health to be engaged in work as it 'takes yer mind off things' blah blah. They have no idea..

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,469 Championing

    There doing the same with pensioners, either cutting the warm discount, and sending tax bills for those on state pension, my sister and brother in law won't get it, I told them to try for pension credit as both are in ill health especially my sister

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,469 Championing

    Yes they get that, it's unfair that this is happening to them

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Community Member Posts: 1,469 Championing

    I thought labour would be fairer to us, how wrong I was.

    My brother said he couldn't be trusted (Kier Starmer)

  • Tumilty
    Tumilty Community Member Posts: 506 Empowering

    Do these proposals have to go through parliament first, get votes etc as to whether it through

  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Community Member Posts: 405 Pioneering

    The green paper had negative feedback, so we'll see what happens.

    Parliament is in reccess, so we'll see what happens when it's resumed.

  • Cantilip
    Cantilip Community Member Posts: 615 Empowering

    @Andi66 Pension credit is just a matter of income and savings, health irrelevant. Sorry if you knew that already but your post sounded as if you maybe didn't.

    On the other side of the coin, I know pensioners considerably better off than I who have trilled happily that they got their WFP and I have wondered why. They are not people who are going to be plunged into hypothermia. Means testing is fine by me but Reeves' bar here is far too low.

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