Pip reassurance

Nightcity
Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,712 Championing

I am hoping this may help calm some people.

Mr Timms has confirmed there was a massive 16,000 responses to the consultation. He also stated labour would be reading those and considering their own approach. This suggests they likely aren't interested in the tories nasty ideas.

However If they were to push it forward there will be tremendous backlash.

And it would take many years the process would be as follows in the unlikely event it's not binned.

white paper

discussion/Debate

First reading (commons)

second reading (commons)

cmmmittee stage

Report Stage

third Reading (commons)

all stages in lords also

being so controversial it'll likely be amended Many times and ping ponged and delayed by the lords.

Eventual royal accent (becoming law)

minimum 2 months grace period before law starts

Small trials

slow staged rollout

estimated time 3-15 years.

Take comfort from the DLA to PIP and the legacy to UC timescale a decade+ each

backlogs, staff shortages

not likely to be a problem any time soon or ever.

Comments

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 8,629 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Thanks for sharing that information @Nightcity hopefully this will put peoples minds at ease for a bit. 😊

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 63,186 Championing

    Do you have a link to confirm this please? I like to read those links for myself, as I’m sure other members are the same too.

  • Albus_Scope
    Albus_Scope Posts: 8,629 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Sorry @Nightcity your comments got eaten by our overly zealous spam filter, it often happens if things are posted or edited too quickly. But I've tidied things up for you.

  • Nightcity
    Nightcity Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 2,712 Championing

    Ok no worries, sorry it told me nothing went through so I resent.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 63,186 Championing

    Thank you!

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,147 Empowering

    Hello Everybody,

    It is good news that the voucher idea seems to have been abandoned though I was disappointed by the small percentage of PIP claimants and disability charities that participated. My big worry is that PIP will be means-tested like the Winter Fuel Payment. I am not entitled to means-tested benefits because of a few savings. I cannot work because of a severe life-long disability. I live on my own and am finding things very difficult as things are. Without PIP I would have absolutely no income. Could it be taxed? That would be better than means-testing.

    Thanks from Zips

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 548 Empowering

    I am in the same situation as you because I am not entitled to means tested benefits.

    I had to take early ill health retirement age 47 and I have a small occupational pension plus a bit of savings for my old age.

    We still have the extra cost of disability that pip is paid for and I feel it would be horrendously wrong and highly discriminatory if it becomes means tested.

  • Rowan203
    Rowan203 Online Community Member Posts: 17 Listener

    I think pip will become means tested. Which feels so unfair when you have high disability related costs but it doesn’t feel like they care.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 16 Connected

    Goodness knows what the government has planned. I'm going to tune out from it all until October. We will hear then from the horse's mouth so to speak on what changes there is going to be. It's out of our hands so to speak and speculating only causes anxiety.

  • YogiBear
    YogiBear Online Community Member Posts: 16 Connected

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,147 Empowering

    I doubt that PIP will remain the same. I'd rather be taxed that have vouchers but even vouchers would help more than the zero I'd get if it were mean-tested like UC.