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Well i have made my mind up and come to the conclusion that Labour are just as heartless if not not worse than the Tories. As I've said before, why don't MPs take less of a salary. I hate to think what this Country will be like in a years time, Labour will be giving nothing to anyone and now their talking about increasing the retirement age. I can see they will have a lot of deaths on their hands
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This Labour Party call themselves the New Labour Party. Their callous disregard for the lives of the less fortunate in society might be a new turning point for Labour, but itโs all too familiar from their opposition. The very party that we voted out of office - the Tory Party. This is something that people found wholly wrong and turned to Labour in the hope that they would be the party of the people. Sadly not so. This morning I have seen that their cutbacks for the poorest in society have had 0% impact on the economy.
This should speak volumes that penalising the poor does not pay. It lessens support. It leads to a serious lack of confidence in the Government and their ability to control not only the economy, but also their compassion for the less privileged in society. I do think that the Deputy Prime Minister has a much clearer understanding of poverty and itโs impact on people than Starmer and his Chancellor. They seem more interested in emptying prisons than caring. Out of touch is the rhetoric coming from Downing Street.
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All done @Catherine21
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@Nightcity @Community_Scope Don't think this is escalation or anything, just statement of fact. I have just left the Labour Party. I refuse to be part of this. The contempt for fact, for the public, is just total. No attempt to explain why pensioners alone were singled out. Thrown any old nonsense from the run on the pound to 'no choice'. Reeves the robot parrot offering no examination of possible other ways of filling that black hole. No mention of or examination of the very different housing situations of pensioners, from owning their homes outright to being on Housing Benefit. Etc.
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You're fine @Cantilip ๐ We understand the need to vent, we just don't want to scare people or jump to conclusions when we don't have answers yet. It's a worrying time for all of us. We just need to be mindful of what we say.
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I can only extend my sympathy to anyone affected by the new cutbacks that are or may affect them.
I make no apologies for my concern for others that are less fortunate than myself.
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Well I'm glad I didn't vote for Labour and i hope yous that did vote for them are happy at what they are planning to do. Im disgusted that they are now going to make single people pay more council tax and force the long term sick into work. They are not humans, they are selfish and heartless to say the least. I just hope Stamer has eyes at the back off his head because he and his party are upsetting a lot off people.
SORRY IF I HAVE SAID ANYTHING I SHOULDNT BUT IM SO ANGRY.
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We do not know what the government plan to do yet, and until we do we need to try and not make assumptions as they can cause unnecessary stress. Avoid scaremongering websites and use legitimate sources. We're all in the same boat and we want you to be able to vent, but we also want you to be aware that a lot of websites only want to sow fear into everyone and they make claims that are not based in fact.
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The most awful or alternatively the funniest part of it (depends on your sense of humour) is I read that if excellent wonderful and brilliant work by charities etc gets most pensioners claiming what they are entitled to, there won't be any saving to speak of.
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Totally understand @Catherine21. The online community team all have disabilities and share the same worries as you. I said that we're happy for you all to vent, just be cautious as to what news sources you use as there's a lot of misinformation out there.
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I didn't vote Labour either.
I understand that a lot of people wanted rid of the Tories and assumed that Labour may be more compassionate but I could see right through them.
I am dreading what they may have in store for the disabled community.
I fear I may lose the roof over my head.
I am going to lose my single person council tax discount.
Goodness knows how I will be able to afford it as I am already struggling to make ends meet. ๐
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OK folks, it's September 12 meaning there are 25 days to go. We are not getting positive messages for all that it's speculation what will ensue. We have not been given even a quarter of a reason to think Kendall will give us a nice box of chocolates. So we can sit here getting ever more distressed, depressed, angry, frightened. Or not. However hard/impossible that is. Out of pure self-interest, let us all keep our cool, because it will not help to be distressed, depressed, angry and frightened. It won't help us solve any problems presented to us on October 7 or to find out and talk to whomever might be able to help us solve those problems.
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if they can stop the winter fuel payments instantly IF there are changes to pip, lcw, lcwrw why would this take longer ?
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Thanks for clarifying @Nightcity
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HI luvpink,
I'm the same, losing my ( single ) council tax discount and might not have a roof over my head.
How they expect us to survive beats me, that's probably what they want.
As you say, most off us are just scrapping by. First their reducing our benefits and now expecting us to pay out more. Surely they can't get away with such evil acts
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Isn't the 'BIG' thing that we as a community i.e. SCOPE and others who share a commonness in that we have health 'vulnerabilities' that at times sets us apart from 'normal people'; that we should stick together, we have a voice, we should shout loudly so Government has no choice but to listen to our concerns and act in a way that is acceptable.
As a side note the Government could raise billions, it's easy, the top 250 companies in the UK has surplus cash, they are always buying out other companies for billions, just look at Shell so much surplus cash. The Government could borrow the money and pay it back as the economy grows.
Shell wouldn't even notice.
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Yes, not only will I have to find the money to pay the extra 25% council tax but its bound to increase again next April.
Last year our local council increased it by the maximum amount and my rent will also go up.
I really do despair. ๐
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As we know, Housing Benefit is means-tested, but it is not a qualifying benefit for WFA. I can think of no reason why not and have asked my MP to ask the Chancellor. Will let you know if I get a reply.
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Well I've came to the conclusion that Labour have got something against Pensioners, the Disabled and the Longterm Sick. All their plans are aimed at them.
They won't be satisfied till their not giving anyone any benefits, how can someone start working that's not fit to work.
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I think they can do as they see fit, their the Government. You would think they were paying us out of their own pocket,
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