So is this it, Starmer has said it?
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He is not good at giving interviews, and tends to give muddled replies. Look at the.election interviews. So I would wait until something concrete emerges
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I'd say changing their mind could be seen as a good thing, it shows they're willing to adapt and aren't too rigid.
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What about people like myself - aged over 60 - unable to work due to body breaking down and giving up.
I have 40 years of paid work behind me - so I've paid taxes for 40 years - medically retired (so unable to be re-employed in same/similar role).
Now claiming enhanced PIP - NOT UC or ESA - Still a few years off my state pension
I really would like to be able to work - but am unable to even stand - so that's it !!
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what is the meaning of 'If they can' ?
People who are ill & on a benefit because of ill health be it short or long term are on it because they can't work.. If they can then surely they'd be on Jobseekers Allowance.. They on a disability benefit because they can't.. Am i wrong i dunno?
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ESA is/was an Incapacity Benefit and you're right to ask..
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I think "If they can" means if your condition/disability stops you from working, then you shouldn't work. He was saying it's up to the individual to determine if they can work?
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When was it ever up to the sick or disabled claimant to determine whether they are fit for work?
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That's just what i interpreted.
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on the 26th September 2024 they have changed the WCA form and removed some of it descriptives and in 2025 those who are in the lcwra group with no longer be in that group and will lose the extra money as well. Its all on the gov website.
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you are going to have to screenshot the part of your link where it says the wca reforms were enacted late sept 2024
This is the most up to date uc50 form I can find (updated July 2024) and that still unaltered (not looked at esa50 form bcos as we’ll all be moved to uc in the coming year I doubt there will be any new esa reassessments now)
also I double checked and the Tory timetable for these wca assessments reform changes weren’t due to start till 2025 and there is nothing in the media suggesting Labour has moved up this timetable or even confirming they are going ahead with the reforms (some would say labours silence is confirmation by they have their own mega reforms being most likely announced in autumn 2024 making it less likely they’d fast track the Tory reforms as they’ll have there own plans in mind)Re: your comment “in 2025 those who are in the lcwra group with no longer be in that group and will lose the extra money as well.”
- I don’t think that either the tories or Labour ever suggested that the lcwra group of uc would be scrapped (leaving only the lcw group) which is what you seem to be implying (at least how I read your comment)You probably didn’t intend but your post will frighten some others with no real evidence of your claim (though I will happily apologise if you have indeed got your facts right)
Hopefully when poppy’s awake (and reads this) she can clarify the situation as she’d be the most likely member to know of any wca changes officially in play in recent days3 -
@cheekylittlekoala I think you need to have another read of that old link you posted because it doesn't suggest anything of the sort. It's an old link from when the Tories were in.
Labour haven't confirmed anything as yet. The descriptors and the forms are exactly the same as what they've always been.
Yes, there has been some changes to assessments (which include WCA and PIP) and the Health Assessment Advisory Service no longer do assessments. Who will do the assessment will depend on what area you live in. You can see the full list, which includes all postcode areas here.
I agree with @apple85 and your comment could frighten some members.
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That's not exactly correct either because they didn't actually confirm what may or may not happen. People took their own views on the announcement, which was a lot of speculation.
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Thank you poppy, I was one that was frightened by the info from cheeky
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Thank God for Apple85, Poppy and Nightcity! Reliable and up to date information is so important
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The trouble is that due to Labour lack of details regarding benefits and the system what they plan to do, is causing mis information by the media which fuels anxiety and worry among us . If they could clarify Pip , at least, this has been dragging on too long. These our our lives they dealing with. It's ok for them being weathly and not having to worry about money.
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I want to apologies if i scared and caused anyone any stress, it wasn’t my intention to do so. The information i was given was by an ex DWP employee. I am not sure if i didn’t understand what she was saying or she was explaining in a way that just confused me. By the time i had finished listening to her i was so stressed and upset. Sorry.
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Do I understand correctly that many of those who wrote in this thread were told only the truth by their bosses at work, teachers, parents...?
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Sorry but I'm confused by your comment…
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You are not the only one …
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I'm worried about my youngest sister as she's my middle niece's main carer and she has to be able to go and collect my niece from her special school, which is in a different part of our hometown from where she lives. She would probably have to go there by bus or taxi to pick up my niece and then she'll do the same coming home.
My sister has had to pick my niece up from her special school a few times as she's either become unwell during school or she's had an accident like bumping heads with another child and my sister has had to go and pick my niece up from school to have her checked over by the doctor or in A&E.
My sister also said that she's thinking about getting herself and my niece checked for ADHD I think she said.
Our eldest cousin, who is in his mid 40s now was only diagnosed with either ADHD or something along those lines when he was in his 30s.
He's a dad himself. He's also a granddad too.
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