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  • Bertie1981
    Bertie1981 Online Community Member Posts: 71 Connected

    I got carer premium with mine too. Looks like they may owe you some money @russ7

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing

    Looking back at your previous thread from Feb 2023 it looks like carers premium was included in your Income Support at that time.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing
    edited October 2024

    Looking at your previous thread from Feb 2023, it looks like carers premiums was included with your Income Support at that time. @russ7

    Sorry, edited because quoted wrong comment.

  • Bertie1981
    Bertie1981 Online Community Member Posts: 71 Connected
  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing

    Haha thanks, yes I did and realised when I posted the comment. I've now edited my comment.

  • Bertie1981
    Bertie1981 Online Community Member Posts: 71 Connected

    Carers element or carers premium in the case of legacy benefits, is a top up of your carers allowance in essence.

    They take it away with one hand, give it back with the other then top it up.

    So you're not losing out.

  • jac1poppy2
    jac1poppy2 Online Community Member Posts: 57 Connected

    Hy guys had UC on the phone to humbly apologise for putting me through hell for work commitments they had for me he was absolutely disgusted how I was treated and should never been put up on my journal the chap going to take the matter further to highest authority to take it off immediately and he going make the person who put me through this stress to there boss taking it further she should be reprimanded and he going make sure this will never happen again

    He said I have no need to work and never need to again

    Thankyou for helping with this been really stressed out

  • Rachel_Scope
    Rachel_Scope Posts: 1,649 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    I'm so glad you got an apology @jac1poppy2! I wish they'd give more apologies. I hope this has eased your stress 😊

  • russ7
    russ7 Online Community Member Posts: 42 Connected

    You do NOT get both benefits,yes carers allowance is paid every Monday but it is all deducted from u- c carers just get the £198.31 per month carer element which is LESS than carers allowance which in reality im providing care for less than i was when recieving i-s

  • russ7
    russ7 Online Community Member Posts: 42 Connected

    I never received a carer premium,part of carers allowance was deducted from my income support..I have learnt I should have been receiving E.S.A due to my own health problems..

  • russ7
    russ7 Online Community Member Posts: 42 Connected

    I stopped receiving income support mid September

  • russ7
    russ7 Online Community Member Posts: 42 Connected

    That is typical DWP staff still dont know how the system works,I have been mislead by them & missed out on E.S.A for eleven years.

  • Bertie1981
    Bertie1981 Online Community Member Posts: 71 Connected

    You should have been receiving the carers premium. It was 45.20 per week on legacy benefits.

    In regards to carers allowance, yes they deduct it from UC and you get it every Monday but you still get "topped up" with carers element. They have to deduct carers from any benefit you get because it's classed as an income. But then you get a top up.

    The total per year of carers allowance and carers element together comes to over 6k. You're not having it deducted and losing it. You're still getting it. If they were deducting it and not giving it you and you got the carers element only, then you'd be out of pocket.

    I'm a carer. I'm on UC. Just migrated over back in July. I get my carers every Monday then I get carers element in with UC. When I was on IS, I got carers allowance deducted out of my income support but then they topped my income support up with carers premium.

  • Bertie1981
    Bertie1981 Online Community Member Posts: 71 Connected

    All of carers allowance is deducted from all benefits. Not just part of it.

  • Bertie1981
    Bertie1981 Online Community Member Posts: 71 Connected

    So they'd take 81.90 per week off income support for example because it's already being paid to you and classed as an income. Then they should have added a carers premium onto your income support which was 45 quid a week.

  • poppy123456
    poppy123456 Online Community Member Posts: 64,463 Championing

    Of course you receive both that’s why carers allowance is paid as a separate payment. You are not worse off by claiming carers allowance.

    Part of the carers allowance was not deducted. ALL of the carers allowance was deducted in full from Income Support. Then carers premium is added.

    Your Income Support calculation would have been something like this… assuming there was no entitlement to any disability premiums.

    If 25+ single person £90.50/week + carers premium = £45.60/week.
    Total Income Support before deductions = £134/week - carers allowance = £51.10/week (£102.20/fortnight)

    Then carers allowance as a separate payment.

    Is that the amount you were receiving?

  • Bertie1981
    Bertie1981 Online Community Member Posts: 71 Connected

    Yes @poppy123456 is right.

    So myself and partner were getting income support, both over 25.

    £142.50 per week

    Plus carers premium - £42.50

    That's £185 per week.

    Plus disability premium 60.60 per week = £245.60

    But then they took £81.90 per week off for CA (which I got paid separately)

    Which left us with £163.70 per week or £327.40 per fortnight.

    I was having my water rates taken each week at £14 a week so my total income support every 2 weeks was £299.40 or there abouts.

  • Bertie1981
    Bertie1981 Online Community Member Posts: 71 Connected

    Sorry, carers premium was 45.60 per week and they took 15 a week for water rates.

    So we got 303. 60 per fortnight IS

  • Bertie1981
    Bertie1981 Online Community Member Posts: 71 Connected
  • Bertie1981
    Bertie1981 Online Community Member Posts: 71 Connected

    You DO get both benefits.

    You get your carers allowance every Monday. Then you get 198 quid a month carers element.

    In regards to you missing out on ESA…My OH gets PIP and has physical disabilities. We got told to claim ESA. So we did. He had to attend a work capability assessment

    We went, the person doing the assessment did not have a clue. She literally sat at her computer in front of us and googled the meds he was on at the time. Which were actually making him really ill. His immune system was shot, he lost a large amount of weight and had to come off them in the end.

    When we got the decision a couple of weeks later, she had scored him 0 points based on "his medication should heal him with continued use" and we got ESA stopped. What a crock of xxxx

    We should have complained and appealed. But we got advice and got told it was a lengthy process and a nightmare so we'd be better off claiming IS due to me being a carer. We weren't that much worse off on IS tbh but looking back we should have appealed it.

    ESA didn't work for a lot of people and was failing them.