Everyone Working
Targeting the long term sick into finding work or will lose their benefits. This Government wants no one claiming benefits.
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I know. The fact that the government is wanting to do this or even just thinking about it is absolutely vile, they must surely know that it will cause a lot of deaths.
Also, it seems they especially want to target people with serious mental health conditions and force them into work.
I suffer from depression, anxiety, and cannot cope with a regular life, I can end up extremely suicidal.
Luckily though nothing is set in stone at the moment. The changes they do make might end up not being anywhere near as severe, and any changes they make will take a very long time to happen.
Just save as much money as you can for your own future safety net if that's possible. It's what I'm doing, I'm also looking into reselling to try and make a bit of money that I can put towards savings too.
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Hi @wendy1 and @Ross1975 ,
Good to see your thoughts on this. Honestly, I have no idea what game is being played anymore.
My local Jobcentre is fully aware of my disabilities and the fact that I spend 80% of my time in bed, yet I’ve just been told to attend a four-week traffic marshalling training course—with a guaranteed interview and a potential job at the end of it.
I can only laugh at the absurdity of it. How am I supposed to stand for hours directing traffic when I can barely manage basic daily activities? It feels like these policies are being created with no real understanding of the realities people like us face. If this is what we can expect from the latest push to get disabled and long-term sick people back into work, things are only going to get worse.
I fully support genuinely meaningful opportunities—with proper person-centred adjustments and financial considerations—for those who can work. But forcing people into roles that ignore their medical conditions isn’t just unfair—it’s cruel. Instead of real support, we’re being set up to fail.
Another thing these services need to consider carefully is whether working will actually leave them financially better or worse off. With the way benefits, wages, and living costs are structured, some may find that taking a job makes them worse off overall and losing vital benefits , which in turn can have a serious impact on their mental well-being and quality of life . Pushing people into unsuitable work without considering the financial and psychological consequences is reckless and damaging.
Has anyone else experienced this kind of nonsense from the Jobcentre recently, especially all all the media hype about these new policies which are yet to be confirmed ?1 -
it’s all madness and in the if they force people with MH conditions into work that’s unsuitable it will cost them more in the long run .
I did laugh at the traffic marshalling course you’re being pushed into , it’s all ludicrous.1 -
Absolutely @letitbe .And to add to that, there’s also the ripple effect of further burdening the already pressured NHS system. When people are forced into unsuitable jobs or face financial strain, it impacts their health and well-being, which in turn leads to more demand on healthcare services that are already stretched thin. It’s a vicious cycle that does nothing but harm to everyone involved.
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I can't believe what's happening in this world, so much for the start of a new year. This government are not interested one bit if they make us worse off, just as long as they stop us from claiming benefits.
Saving won't even help, now their taking control of your savings into a pension,WHAT THE F***. Their taking our life away from us and we can't do one damn thing about it
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That's terrible, are you on LCW?
While I was waiting for my WCA outcome and I had to attend the job center, I told the guy that I had depression and anxiety and cannot cope with a lot of normal things in life that most other people take for granted. After a while he suggested that I get a job as a security guard.
I'll sometimes think, was he just taking the ****? He did look serious though when he suggested it.
Anyway, luckily it wasn't mandatory and eventually I got awarded LCWRA.
If my money was stopped and I was told I'd have to get a job it would kill me, because either I'd end up committing suicide because of not being able to cope, or I'd starve to death. There are things that I find so mentally uncomfortable that I'm not even able to force myself to do them.
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When I was going to the job center while I was waiting for my WCA outcome, both work coaches there were expecting me to do this and to do that as though there was nothing wrong with me, even though I told them about my issues. 'Oh, just hop onto a bus and go to a completely different city you've never been to before and take part in a group activity', 'Oh just drive to strange places that you've never been to before' even though I told them I have issues with driving, 'Oh just join a gym', 'Become a security guard'.
I'm sat there thinking 'Are you not listening to a **** word I'm saying?'
I dread to think how things would be if work coaches end up being the ones deciding how sick we are and what we're capable of doing and not doing instead of WCA's. Which is another terrible idea that either this government or the last one was thinking about.
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If you are in LCW group and can't cope with this I think you should do a change of health and get into LCWRA they couldn't make you do this (as it stands)
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Hi @Santosha12 ,
I am sorry to hear about the difficulties you’re going through and hope you find some relief from your symptoms. Having similar GI issues myself, I understand how debilitating they can be.Regarding LCWRA, I was receiving it (until October 24)after a long waited DWP medical assessment and having to pay for medical evidence to be released from GP surgery . However, I now have an ongoing complaint and a pending mandatory reconsideration outcome, as my LCWRA was stopped and UC closed after I returned from an informed out-of-country trip to seek medical assistance due to long NHS waiting times.
They seem to ignore all my UC journal messages. I have disputed the Signal Marshalling course, explaining my conditions and how they impact my day-to-day functioning, but I doubt they have even read my concerns. However, I responded immediately, worrying that I might be sanctioned if I didn’t.
At present, what I receive through Universal Credit barely covers the essentials after losing LCWRA. I have also been asked to reapply for WCA by completing the DWP health assessment questionnaire again and am now waiting for the assessment. Let’s see what happens next.
I live in constant fear every time I receive an SMS notification from the Jobcentre or hear a brown envelope drop through the door, thinking, this is it ¦ It’s not a nice feeling.
best wishes0 -
@Santosha12 to add I have a PIP payment which is a life saver . I have sent in my review paperwork and all my supporting medical evidences . The PIP award expires next month , so a bit anxious about it .i have been assured by one of our scope members that it should continue to pay if delayed beyond the award end date.
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Hi @Ross1975 ,
Thanks for replying. I used to receive LCWRA, but my payments were stopped when my Universal Credit was abruptly closed after I returned from an out-of-country, medical-related trip—which I had informed my Jobcentre about beforehand.
In regards to that,I currently have a DWP complaint and a mandatory reconsideration request pending a decision. About the signal marshalling course-I’m unsure if the work coach was provoking me, but I was worried about being sanctioned, so I responded in length , explaining why I would be unable to consider that role. At least I have something to defend myself with if they claim I didn’t respond.0 -
What reasons did they provide for closing your UC account if you don't mind me asking?
Do let us know how the MR is going.
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hi @Jimm_Scope ,
I was not given any reason for the closure of my Universal Credit (UC) claim, which has been deeply frustrating. I only found out when I received a routine text to check my UC account. Upon logging in, I discovered it had been closed, with a note stating that my UC “should’ve been closed earlier” because I went out of the country.
This happened despite me notifying the DWP three months before my departure that I was leaving the UK to seek medical treatment due to long NHS waiting lists and worsening symptoms. The lack of communication and support has been incredibly disheartening.
I raised a mandatory reconsideration (MR) and also submitted a formal complaint to the DWP. A guy sent me a journal message reviewing my complaint, apologising for “falling short” in their service but maintained that they had followed all the rules. I realise now that I should have pushed for explicit written permission from DWP to leave the country rather than assuming their silence meant consent. This was a hard lesson for me.
The financial losses have been overwhelming. Initially, I was told I would need to repay a UC overpayment of £1,700 when my claim was closed in October 2024. Later, I received a postal letter demanding £3,000, with no explanation or breakdown of the amount or stating what this is for . I’ve asked for clarity, but it’s been nearly three weeks without a response. So now, I stand as a fraudster with a debt of £4700 to the DWP 😢😢
On top of this, I’ve been sent a detailed full questionnaire for a Work Capability Assessment (WCA). I feel torn apart by this entire process. It’s devastating to be treated like an imposter or fraudster when I’m simply trying to survive with my disability and ill health.
I wish my health would miraculously improve so I could return to full-time work and free myself from this system, which feels more punitive than supportive.
Thank you for listening, and I appreciate any advice or support you or any of our lovely members can offer. I just feel so exhausted.0 -
hi @Santosha12 ,
I can genuinely feel and relate to the pain in your words. You’re absolutely right—aside from forums like Scope, it’s hard to find places where there’s genuine care and understanding. The discrimination and challenges we face as disabled individuals are undeniable and deeply exhausting.
But in spaces like this, we can at least support each other, holding virtual hands and hearts together as we navigate through these struggles. You’re not alone in this, and we’ll keep standing by each other.
Take care,
🤝🤝
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We do all need to support each other. There is still a lot of ignorance and misunderstanding in the world. Through supporting each other we can keep each other strong and keep each other going. That way we can have the strength to help educate and remove some of the ignorance and misunderstanding.
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It just makes no sense. This useless government need to realise that a lot of us aren't fit to work. It's not our choice. I'd love to be well and active and holding down a good job I enjoy again. But in the real world it isn't going to happen, those days have gone. I know if I was found a job I'd end up going straight off on sick leave and doubt I'm alone. I simply can't do it now. Unless they can find a vacancy for someone who lives with chronic pain, severe mobility problems, incontinence , a weird sleep pattern etc. Plus officially a pensioner in three years. Assuming I live that long. Would be employers would be falling over each other to hire me.
I wish whoever comes up my these bright ideas could wear my shoes for a week
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