Liz Kendall latest news about reform
I read a worrying article today which I won’t post link to, you can just google Liz Kendall benefits and it will show up.
I don’t mean to worry or fear monger with this post that is not my intention.
Liz Kendall is planning on a massive shake up in disability benefits and wants to completely scrap some all together from what I have read.
what concerns me is since Labour took over any cost cutting plan they had has happened quite quickly and I’m concerned her new idea may get the go ahead sooner rather than later.
They seem to be hell bent on attacking the weakest and most vulnerable in society!
Looking like they are going after people with mental health particularly with these new plans. I can’t understand why they think some of us that have had mental health problems our whole lives can now suddenly because Labour feel like cutting some of their spending, we are supposed to magically be able to start working. Sorry if I posted this in the wrong section but I’m sick to death of these politicians. Again I just wanted to know peoples thoughts on this matter and sorry in advance for negative news.
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my personal view is go outside when its raining with a tin of open paint and watch it dry as has been said many many times change will take time stop beating yourself up over it
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Labour were able to change the winter fuel payment criteria so quickly because it was a government perk.
Welfare benefits are protected by legislation..
Any changes take a long time.
First a green paper
Then a white paper
Then it starts the slow parliamentary process to become law
Further delayed by legal challenges which I fully expect will happen.
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Love this 🤣🤣🤣
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🤣🤣🤣 I hear ya
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right got ya, very strange from these people in power though regardless.
Forever punching down! And the joy and pride on their faces when they talk about this stuff. Anyway thanks for reply as always Kimmy
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I fully supported and voted for Labour and I can guarantee you it would be even worse under a Tory Government, but if they chuck disabled people under the bus, that is the last vote they’ll have for me. For me the one who shows the most compassion to disabled people is Liberal Democrat. I know Labour have inherited a huge debt which is not their fault, but if they try to reduce that by attacking the weakest and most vulnerable that will be the final straw.
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I had a quick look at the article mentioned and I can see no relevant sources to back up what is being said. So I wouldn't take this too seriously. Unless there is an actual source and evidence for such claims I don't think they are worth reading too much into.
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the source was the Telegraph and the Independamt newspapers, not some 2 bit internet news source, but yes I hear you Jimm, no point stressing.
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I feel that we have to wait and see. I voted labour however the news and target 🎯 they have put on PIP and disability benefits has me concerned. I agree that the system is broken, however this is the system. If the DWP had people who understood disabilities, and assessments that were actually effective. That actually not only spoke to the applicants , but there GP and specialist consultants and nurses, maybe there would not be as many decisions that are overturned at mandatory reconsideration or tribunal.
I do think that however they should actually put in appropriate measures and changes at the DWP and assesment centres first, instead of statements that are blanket, treating all claimants the same.
Words matter and I understand why so many people are so anxious, they will rush through changes.
Many labour MP's are staying quiet, as they are concerned that the QA welfare reforms may go against the principles they stand for, but until the policy is released won't say anything.
Its amazing that our government , all parties over the years have wasted billions. However it's the disabled who are going to save the countries finances.
Look at the billions wasted on COVID, HS2 alone.
If they go ahead with there current policies, I think reform will overtake both parties and what this will mean for us no one knows.
I would say we have to wait, don't try and guess. We know reforms are going to happen.l, that will not change. But until they are officially announced it's hard to understand the impact.
There I am sure will be legal challenges, and processes after.
I am concerned, but I know I can't worry till I know.
I think a lot of the press are publishing whispers and unnamed sources. They all have very negative government stories, so I am aware that headlines like these will be great for the opinion polls. They also create fear, anxiety and affect how people spend. After all disabled people will be trying save something just incase.
I hope that labour do the right thing. Let's wait and see.
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The thing is though, the LibDems can be all touchy feely, because they are not much more than a protest party.
Remember the 2010 election? They weren't quite so cuddly when they got a sniff of power.
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I agree with you on your points, it’s just crazy to me that they feel punishing the most vulnerable will help their cause. I’m sure many have spoke on this plenty on this platform so I won’t regurgitate my frustrations any more on this matter.
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Indeed, I read the Independent which stated the Times as a source. So I read the Times article. And it is purely speculative, no source, no evidence. I apologise if it felt like I was insinuating something, that really was not intended. I just rarely trust much newspapers that is said these days without some kind of actual source. It still happens, but when it comes to "government plans" it often feels like the idea of having a source goes out the window.
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no need for apology at all Jimm, we are all on the same team here I’d like to think.
We shall see what the future holds hey, nothing much we can do about it.Have a good evening.
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My own feeling, sd100 + everyone, is Labour put the story out in the Times (incidentally, a right-wing Tory supporting paper) to test the public reaction. They can't do anything until they announce their green paper in Parliament, which they say they're doing in the spring (my feeling will be March). We'll be clearer then with what they're planning, although I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was "all the above" ie as printed in the Times. But it's very hard to make an effective protest until we know the details.
I note there's been hardly a bleep of reporting on this so far in the main TV news (except of course gloating GB News). Labour will no doubt take this as a good sign. And I'm sure their number one priority is to save their own skins now, and demonstrate just how much they're "cutting costs". They seem pretty desperate: they've kept the Tories 2 child benefit cap (which would take almost a million kids out of poverty if scrapped), chopped the pensioners winter fuel allowance, made plans to dismantle small farmers while the rich investors like Clarkson will remain unaffected… Latest is they're saying failing councils can increase council taxes by 25% in a single year… GB Energy will take 20 years to bring benefits… They won't have any supporters left at the rate they're going. So we're an easy hit - unless we make one hell of a stink and embarrass them so much they back down.
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Yes and that’s the worry they know we don’t have it in us to try kick up any fight, I doubt waving a few banners outside a court will change their minds.
Wishing for the best and expecting the worse comes to mind in this case.
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I think the term is dog whistling. Labour put out fake stories in the press to make the opposition happy, when the green paper is revealed, the plans may be different.
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Just like one of my earlier posts condemning the transitional protection eroding over time, what can we do but just say oh well that’s just how it is, when it’s completely not right.
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god willing
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Last thing the SDP element which is being scrapped and eroded over time is actually quite a substational amount over time, I know this because over 10 years of being eligible for it and not getting it I was last year paid out for the arrears mistake and it was a hell of a lot of money for someone in my situation.
so seeing people just take this on the chin like it’s nothing baffles me.0 -
I'm afraid Labour will become so unpopular there'll be a huge swing to Reform. And either they'll get in on their own or run the country in league with the Tory right. Reform have several red lines they won't cross which they've stated many times: 1. Privatise the NHS - it would be the end of the NHS as we know it 2. Bring down taxes for the rich - good old trickle-down economics 3. Slash welfare spending - that's us, schools, care homes, everything. 4. Scrap workers' rights.
Reform are already ahead of the Tories + almost level with Labour in the polls. People are desperate and they see Labour + Tories as more of the same. It was just the same with Brexit. If Reform do get a landslide, and yet again people see the wool's been pulled over their eyes + they're even worse off than under Labour, we could actually see the disintegration of society. This was in the Observer at the weekend:
The gap between rich + poor grows ever-wider, Reform could tip the UK over the edge. And our lives would be hell, soup kitchens, people freezing to death, et al, even more than now.
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