Labour doubles down on slashing billions from DWP's disability benefits bill

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  • FeistyPigeon
    FeistyPigeon Online Community Member Posts: 295 Empowering

    I think Starmer as a puppet strikes a lot of chords Apple, the Labour right are very firmly in charge of the party, and I can well imagine Blair and his acolytes have a good hand in the proceedings too - one example being the replacement of their very popular ambassador for America with Mandelson, although he might find he's tied up there rather more than envisaged.

    Incidentally right now reading Owen Jone's book "The Establishment" - it's an eye opener.

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 892 Championing
  • WhatThe
    WhatThe Online Community Member, Scope Member Posts: 3,858 Championing

    Hi apple, I couldn't find our last chat but will come back to this.. Thanks again for the reads.

  • worried33
    worried33 Online Community Member Posts: 915 Championing
    edited February 3

    The losses quoted I think are related to people losing LCWRA entitlement, as the plans are likely to be to move people from LCWRA to LCW via WCA changes. I wont say any other comment due to the recent post by Scope.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 141 Empowering
    edited February 4

    I wouldn't be able to survive if I lost £400 a month. I'd also loose the car and become completely housebound because of that.

    Wouldn't be able to go to the job center then to visit the work coach. And then guess what? Because of that I'd get sanctioned, begin to starve, become even more suicidal…

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,577 Championing

    Im clueless as everyone can see i will follow anyone who has knowledge thats what i said need someone with knowledge to set out a plan well what would your ideas be what would you do i know your very clued up we have loads of people i wont name them but so many on here with wide knowledge lets put our heads togeather pls sitting back letting it happen is crazy

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,577 Championing

    Do the DWP have to do safeguarding on us as disabled people ie regarding Get Britain Working my doctor has wrote and dont like the term hes said im mentally unstable to work so could i have or all of us have a point if we state to them our conditions do not permit us to work and will lead to unhealthy pattens and behaviour if pushed to far or could we do safeguarding on ourselves and get doctor to sign im thinkinh of all means you cannot send seriously mentally ill who are triggered by society its a bad outcome for the person and maybe public

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 1,133 Championing

    Currently, the DWP does not have a statutory legal duty to safeguard the wellbeing of vulnerable claimants. In a statement made years ago, Therese Coffey remarked, "I do not actually think it is the responsibility of DWP to have that statutory duty. We are not the local council, social services, doctors, and other organisations."

    If your doctor has stated that you are mentally unstable to work, this should be taken into consideration by the DWP. You can inform the DWP about your conditions and how they affect your ability to work.

    However, the DWP does have policies and procedures in place to support vulnerable individuals. On 8 January 2025, oral questions were raised in Parliament regarding the safeguarding of vulnerable claimants.

    Additionally, there is an ongoing inquiry by the Work and Pensions Committee, which is examining how the DWP supports vulnerable benefit claimants and whether its approach to safeguarding needs to change.

  • Amberpearl
    Amberpearl Online Community Member Posts: 2,254 Championing

    I've read awful things that the new government dwp want to stop pip for those with mental health issues

    I'm. Struggling now, if they cur my money I. May as well be in the streets

  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Online Community Member Posts: 314 Empowering

    All we have now are rumours and speculation. We'll get a clearer picture next month.

    What the government say and what actually happens are two different things. There will be a long process to changing benefits and the bills to change them will be watered down if it's too controversial and cruel.

    We have MPs on our side. Just yesterday, Richard Burgon called out the government for scapegoating disability benefit claimants.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,577 Championing

    Oh ok gosh thats shocking but not suprised have we any update on ECHR investigation im going to do my own safeguarding and send with proof and i tell them i hold them to account if anything happens loads of incidents of people wuth MH being discharged from psych ward and gone out into public and harmed people and themselfs

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,577 Championing

    I cant see how they would get away with it to me its disgrimnation we should have our assessments done by proffesionals who are quailfied with our illness as ive learned from scope nightcity kimmy said this will not happen overnight dont make yourself ill i got so mentally ill when sunak did that speech its cruel how papers make it out i only trust scope and poppy as well have my advice would be just trust scope all those papers tiktok i deleted

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 892 Championing

    you are very kind Catherine but what you are suggesting would require someone on this forum whom can reach far and command respect.

    I’ve voiced some controversial views in the past and majority of scope member either regularly disagree with my posts or don’t take them seriously.

    Also I’ve never liked being in the spotlight and have always been a backstager

    I can think of 2, prehaps 3 scope members (excluding mods) that if they suggested doing something I’d be pm’ing to offer to help in any way I can

    I’ve said it before - the disabled community is absolutely rubbish in utilising its large numbers and work together (like the black lives matters and lbgtq2+ social groups - much more organised and in unison than us)

    The disabled community is so fractured that politicians just don’t fear repercussions from us……if larger numbers of us started to work together on a campaign of sorts (and get media attention) I think some MPs may not think us so easily rolled over

    Do a Google search on dwp/disability and browse through social media - more and more disabled ppl and journalists are recognising that disability activism and activity across the community needs to start now before reforms are announced - but there’s a lack of a ‘leader’ or campaign acting as a beacon light to draw us together

    The disability organisation DPAC are probably best placed to launch any legal action

    however Scope is one of the biggest disability online communities in the uk and I hope someone figures out how to reach out to all of us (they don’t even need a plan of action, it’s more about getting the numbers ready)


    to all scope members - if you aren’t already online disability activists it’s time you started

    And to @Catherine21 - I think you’d be the first one to admit you are a bit of a headless chicken and your fears overwhelm you - however you don’t need to be smart to let the fear drive you to take positive action. I’ve read your posts when you haven’t gone into overdrive and you’ve said some intelligent things (plus you’re significantly better of posting many short &sweet posts on this forum then me - if you hadn’t noticed i specialise in ‘essay’ length posts)

    I think you do have the ability to reach multiple scope members Catherine as right now the plan of action isn’t important, it’s about being able to easily reach ppl once a corner of the disabled community has a plan of action and needs help with the momentum


    for now @Catherine21 I’ll leave you the following link that may help you have something to build upon (all those not great at composing letters/emails may find this link helpful too

    https://z2k.eaction.org.uk/MP-Secretary-Of-State

  • Ironside1990
    Ironside1990 Online Community Member Posts: 314 Empowering

    I've Clicked the link and sent an email off.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,577 Championing

    I remember years ago worked at the job centre it was horrific the goverment underpay over work i used to see people crying begging staff has lost humanity under piles of paperwork to many claimants for one member of staff claimants dehumanised it comes from the top and seeps down remeber reading an article how the whole setup of going for assessments ie buildings are designed in a way to make the people feel uneasy

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,577 Championing

    Im going to write my own safeguarding and send as extra evidence its vile they need and should but then to many people would get awarded if safeguarding was in place my heartbreaks for the people who was pushed to the brink god think we all been there

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,577 Championing

    I totally understand must be really hard umderstanding whats happening and having knowledge and feeling powerless trying to put the word out there ive only woken uo to it all because of the cuts mentioned and your right the disabled community arent proactive this i agree with alot of people are ruled by fear scared to put name to pertitions ive emailed my mp god 10 times i think before that was timms god i thought id get arressted because of fear we need to be signing anything and everything like you said be online activist when white paper comes out FILL IT OUT PEOPLE i do even though my writing awful what people need to understand is times running out for us and humanity its that serious thankyou ive signed people dont sit back and wait for scope and other to do something as ellen clifford said let our voices be heard she cant do it all we have to play our part this is our lives our lifeline

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,577 Championing

    Im the kindest person but when triggered its not good how are you pippa mum

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,577 Championing

    Same oh yes i have a little yorkie being naughty i have daughters dog for couple of weeks and my fifi 15 and she rules the roost getting me up all hours got me up at 3 am or garden i ate whole packet of mini eggs gone 3 !! Thought id tell you that lol