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belinda_1345
belinda_1345 Online Community Member Posts: 4 Listener
edited February 20 in Universal Credit (UC)

hi I just wanted to ask I receive UC and LWRCA but I have had a really bad few months can I pay for a break away from my money is this allowed 

I haven’t been spending much due to being ill

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  • belinda_1345
    belinda_1345 Online Community Member Posts: 4 Listener
    edited February 20

    hi I just wanted to ask I receive UC and LWRCA but I have had a really bad few months can I pay for a break away from my money is this allowed

    I haven’t been spending much due to being ill

  • anisty
    anisty Online Community Member Posts: 466 Empowering

    Yes, this is allowed. Enjoy!

  • belinda_1345
    belinda_1345 Online Community Member Posts: 4 Listener

    thank you for answering asked on a group and go so many negative comments it made me anxious and so upset

    Just wanted to check before I got into any trouble

  • pburns1337
    pburns1337 Online Community Member Posts: 58 Contributor

    Yes, of course. The payments are to support you towards having as good a quality of life as you can despite your illness. If there's any activity you can do that will relieve your suffering or that can be therapeutic then why would anyone object to that?

  • Holly_Scope
    Holly_Scope Posts: 1,026 Scope Online Community Coordinator

    Hi @belinda_1345 I can see you've received some great feedback from the community so I won't add anything more other than to say welcome to the community. 🙂

    I've also merged 2 of your discussions as they were quite similar - hope that's ok.

    Best wishes,

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 3,731 Championing

    Oh bless you horrible to think we're so scared to have a life I Hope you have a lovely holiday

  • belinda_1345
    belinda_1345 Online Community Member Posts: 4 Listener

    I’m so anxious and it’s making me feel scared I’m so unsure of what I am allowed to do regarding this so many different view and with all the checks I don’t want to “do wrong” :(

  • anisty
    anisty Online Community Member Posts: 466 Empowering

    Please don't be scared. I can tell you exactly what the checks are looking for:

    1. They are looking for people who claim UC and spend too much time out of the UK to remain eligible.
    2. They are looking for hidden capital .

    Hidden capital - if you have secret bank accounts you have not declared and you have been sending some of your UC to the undeclared accounts to hide it. (Or even save it for a rainy day - not allowed)

    If you have been gifting money to friends and relatives to keep under capital limits. It is perfectly ok to buy gifts for people but it is not ok to suddenly give £200 away because you have £5800 in your account. (when you have never given that person £200 before) It is not ok either to give an amount to someone else to save for you in their account.

    It is not ok to buy very expensive items (jewellrey, cars, go on an expensive holiday) just for the purpose of getting your capital down. You can buy things for yourself but not if it is with the sole intention of keeping your capital below 6k or 16k.

    The review team will look for patterns of spending - if you always go on holiday once a year and it's normal for you to do a few mini breaks - perfectly fine.

    If you usually holiday every year in Scarborough and then the team notice the one time you had 8k in your account, you took off abroad and spent the whole lot - that looks very dodgy!

    Even more dodgy if you had 15k in your accounts and then suddenly go on a 10k holiday when you have never spent anywhere near that on holiday ever before.

    Do you see what i mean? It is ok to spend your money how you want to and you don't need to always get the cheapest. The review team is looking for fraud.

    So they will question one-off large spends (it might be totally ok to have a one-off large spend; that's fine and if you can explain it as long as you have not had that large spend purely to get your money down, fine)

    And they will question regular spends going to another account or a friend/relative's account.

    Basically, as long as you are not doing anything fraudulent, you're fine to go for it!

  • FeistyPigeon
    FeistyPigeon Online Community Member Posts: 237 Empowering

    That's a very useful comment anisty, thanks for making it so clear : )

  • anisty
    anisty Online Community Member Posts: 466 Empowering

    Cheers @FeistyPigeon 👍

    I should have maybe said - it IS ok to put some unspent UC away for a rainy day IF you declare it. So - if you have money left over, by all means keep it. Under 6k fine. You don't need to say anything.

    Over 6k - also fine as long as you let them know via the section in your journal. Pay the relevant deduction and that's perfectly ok.

    It really is the hidden stuff they are looking for and off-loading your money for friends to keep hidden for you.

    Don't do anything sneaky😈