March 26th and Green Paper Mega Discussion (ITV leaks, etc)

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  • mac99
    mac99 Online Community Member Posts: 38 Contributor
    edited March 8

    i totally agree with you they should not be targeting anybody especially not sick and disabled people.ive worked for 20 years of my life until i couldn't work anymore because of my illness and if the safety net wasn't there i would have been in real trouble.hopefully these proposals will fall flat in the court rooms.

  • johnron
    johnron Online Community Member Posts: 114 Contributor
    edited March 8

    details of the Government's welfare shake up. Over £6bn saved in total, 5 of which come from making it harder to get Personal Independence Payments, PIP will also be frozen next year so no rise with inflation & overhaul of out of work benefits as well 1/What criteria tighten PIP access?Do reforms match UN disability advice?134373271298K

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    {link removed}·6hIve heard that the Govt is going to increase the basic rate of Universal Credit, but cut the rate for those judged as too unwell or disabled to work. Cost neutral according to sources, to incentivise work BUT 2/1811710540K

  • johnron
    johnron Online Community Member Posts: 114 Contributor
    edited March 8

    so "we" are going to be punished for been disabled? looks like

  • johnron
    johnron Online Community Member Posts: 114 Contributor
    edited March 8
  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
    edited March 8
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/992886#Comment_992886

    surely itv is a reputable source though ? I read somewhere they are also looking at invisible conditions such as fibromyalgia which I have . As though if it can’t be seen it doesn’t exist.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
    edited March 8
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/992888#Comment_992888

    I really hope you’re right but I can’t help thinking that this was leaked to see how it goes down with the public before it’s officially released.

  • ased444
    ased444 Online Community Member Posts: 166 Connected
    edited March 8

    Hi

    So my friend has 2 property 1 is his main residence and if his daughter lives in another his property but his daughter is in full time college will he be able to get universal credit in that sitiuation ?

  • evonneo
    evonneo Online Community Member Posts: 31 Contributor
    edited March 8

    FYI what the government IIS NOT legal and will be in CHALLENGED in court. Maybe someone st Scope can reassure people.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
    edited March 8
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/992894#Comment_992894

    they said 5billion per year from pip and increase in job seekers allowance and cut in lcwra

  • evonneo
    evonneo Online Community Member Posts: 31 Contributor
    edited March 8

    What this government is doing is extremely stupid and dumb and there will be a BIG backlash.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 2,052 Championing
    edited March 8

    I hope you’re right but the government tried before with DKA to PIP . It seems very discriminatory to take from one group ( lcwra) to give to another group ( job seekers) . If we are too sick how can they get away with discriminating against us ? I did read conditions such as fibromyalgia will be the next group they will target . Invisible conditions where we don’t look sick enough .

  • ased444
    ased444 Online Community Member Posts: 166 Connected
    edited March 8

    Hi

    My friend has 2 property and if his mother is receiving pension and his mother lives in his second property will he be able to get universal credit? Thanks

  • mac99
    mac99 Online Community Member Posts: 38 Contributor
    edited March 8

    looking on twitter there is a big backlash against these proposals and people are threatening legal action.there is a lot of anger to theses proposals and if they try and rush things through it will be crazy as the courts ruled in january that the tories wca plans were rushed so therefore unlawfull.they can't ignore the courts judgment surely.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 407 Pioneering
    edited March 8

    If they do cut LCWRA how likely is it going to be a big cut like several hundred. Is it possible that it may only be a much smaller cut like maybe £30 or something?

    If it's several hundred I literally wont survive.

  • Chris75_
    Chris75_ Online Community Member Posts: 4,154 Championing
    edited March 8

    Don't listen to the scaremongering. If your condition has significantly deteriorated, let them know and claim the higher amount.

  • Ross1975
    Ross1975 Online Community Member Posts: 407 Pioneering
    edited March 8

    Hi, Danny, I'm terrified too because of them picking on mental health as I'm on LCWRA because of mental health issues, depression, anxiety, not being able to cope with regular life, getting easily very mentally distressed, and feeling suicidal.

    There was a time in my life where I wasn't able to leave the house for around 7 years, for me getting a car changed that, but if I lost having a car because of not being able to afford to run it anymore I would become housebound again, that on top of having to deal with noisy neighbours which means I have to wear ear plugs or ear defenders almost 24 hours a day everyday would finish me, even more so if I would be being hounded by an invalidating, gas lighting work coach as well. I also have a little bit of OCD, but it flairs up pretty badly when I get anxious.

  • noonebelieves
    noonebelieves Online Community Member Posts: 706 Championing
    edited March 8

    @Holly_Scope Is Scope running any consultations with its members regarding this issue? Although nothing has been set in stone yet, I’m really worried about it!

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 3,214 Championing
    edited March 8

    There appears to be a lot of scaremongering as usual.

    Until the government make an official announcement later this month no one and especially not the media knows what cuts will be made.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 3,214 Championing
    edited March 8

    Scaremongering at its finest.

    Until the government make an official announcement later this month nobody knows what they intend to do.

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 4,121 Championing
    edited March 8
    https://forum.scope.org.uk/discussion/comment/992919#Comment_992919

    @luvpink I think the days of "scaremongering" ended with this report from a reputable journalist on ITN. It is so specific that it is an obvious governmental leak. The report lacks the fine detail of what we will hear on 26th but this is what we've been waiting for. It's the real thing and it's a killer.

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