March 26th and Green Paper Mega Discussion (ITV leaks, etc)

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  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 951 Championing
    edited March 8

    Hi Albus

    I originally created the thread, but I noticed that you’ve renamed it, and the date is incorrectly listed as March 26th in both the new title and the body of your above text. The correct publication date, as I originally stated is 6 March 2025, not March 26th. I believe the title and text should accurately reflect this, as people may confuse it with the early Spring Forecast by Rachel Reeves, which is scheduled for 26 March 2025.

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 753 Championing

    Nobody knows anything for sure. All the feather spitting isn't doing anyone any good. I refuse to worry about what may or may not come to pass.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,264 Trailblazing

    A tiny glimmer of hope.

    Thank you for sharing.

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,264 Trailblazing

    Same here.

    Until there's official confirmation I am trying not to stress too much over what may or may not happen.

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,421 Championing

    Does anybody know which government legislation sets the rules for the annual PIP rise ?

  • Wibbles
    Wibbles Online Community Member Posts: 2,421 Championing
    edited March 9

    Where is the legislation that allows them to do this ?

    The Social Security Administration Act 1992, aligns increases with key economic indicators such as average weekly earnings and inflation.

    Therefore they can't just change the law because they WANT TO..

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,692 Empowering

    When do people anticipate an announcement from the Labour Front Bench? This coming Wednesday has been suggested on another thread for the launch of the Green Paper. Or will it be on 26th when Reeves makes her Spring Statement?

  • Ray212
    Ray212 Online Community Member Posts: 632 Empowering

    I am not so sure. I remember not so long ago when they suspended payment increases for UC or was it JSA at the time for 5 years or whatever it was

  • MW123
    MW123 Scope Member Posts: 951 Championing

    You're right that the Social Security Administration Act 1992 is a key piece of legislation, providing the framework for managing and uprating social security benefits, including PIP. However, it doesn't require benefits to be automatically increased in line with inflation every year. Instead, the Act grants the Secretary of State for Work and Pensions the authority to make regulations regarding uprating. This means there is discretion in deciding whether benefits should be uprated and by how much. Any changes to benefit rates must still be approved by Parliament.

    Most recent examples of the use of this discretion was when Parliament agreed the four-year benefit freeze from 2015 to 2020. During this period, most working-age benefits, including certain elements of Universal Credit, Child Benefit, and other allowances, were frozen at their 2015-2016 levels. As a result, their real value decreased over time as inflation rose.

    While the government has the power to make these decisions, they are still open to legal challenge if it's believed they are acting unlawfully (e.g., in breach of human rights legislation or if the decision-making process was flawed).

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 217 Empowering

    I hope you’re right and they do back down. I read about here not answering the question of assessments. Isn’t this part of the reason Ellen Clifford won her case against the Tory’s green paper? So Labour thinks they can ignore it and it won’t go back to court

  • jbss07
    jbss07 Online Community Member Posts: 16 Contributor

    ^ Exactly! They've learned nothing from the Tory papers defeat. In any other job you'd be fired for such level of incompetence, its unreal! I really don't see them accomplishing anything this parliament - other than endless court battles & then being tossed out in 2029...

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 217 Empowering

    if it wasn’t true surely there would be a denial by now ? Personally I think it was leaked to see what reaction it would get. Either that or someone who is on our side . The no assessment wasn’t that what Ellen Clifford won the judgement on regarding the Tory paper ?

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 217 Empowering

    Please god 🙏

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 217 Empowering

    I really hope you’re right . Thank you for being positive. It’s blatantly obvious that it’s a money saving exercise which the Tory tried and lost . I think they themselves leaked this information to see if there’s be a backlash. They’ve given themselves a few days to make changes and back down hopefully

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Online Community Member Posts: 93 Empowering

    Yes Kimmy, I totally agree. I think this week we may start to have some official commentary.....we may even see the 'green paper' this week.

    One thing I do know is.....the constant vilification and discrimination of the sick , vulnerable and disabled will continue.

    I never asked to be ill......feeling very angry and 'lost' that our pittance will be cut further because we are too unwell to be in employment.

    The hatred most of the political class have for the most vulnerable in society knows no bounds.

    It's wicked and downright evil.

    But I'm not going down without a fight !!!!

    They've gone too far this time !!!!

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