March 26th and Green Paper Mega Discussion (ITV leaks, etc)
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Ok daft question would how kendell, reeves & starmer are & have been talking about the disabled in the press,tv & online be classed as a hate crime? If yes do you think mass reporting would make any difference?
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it really feels as though they’re making it up as they go along . Completely unprepared to govern . Fought the Tory while in opposition then steal their ideas that’s the way it looks to me
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I've said it before, 'work is good for you' is so close to 'work will set you free' that it is an abomination.
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Thank you kimmy87 for all the help and adivse
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recent history shows us that things can be challenged in the courts and won.the tories changed dla to pip to make it harder to get and get the number of claims down but descriptors were challenged in court and changed with the dwp having to change the descriptors to make them lawful and back pay millions of people.this happened on at least 3 descriptors so pip numbers didn't go down they went up massively.we also have the most recent judgment on the tories proposals being unlawful and how are labours proposal any different?also they tried to get away with not giving people they're sdp when people were migration managed from esa to uc but lost that too and had to give these people transitional payment protection.the laws have not changed and labour are not above the law and will be held accountable.you've also got the issue of labour supporters who have voted for labour for years,how will they feel that they're party is now unrecognizable from its roots and attacking the most vunerable in society.will this cost them a lot of votes?i would like to think so and labour are running the risk of losing a lot of they're voters just like the tories did in the last general election.
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Its so degrading to hear them say that. I started work at about 10 years old selling programmes at the local football club for a packet of crisps a twix & a can of pop. Ive done yts, training programs, worked in offices, shops, pubs, holiday parks, warehouses, security took any job i could get. Then my youngest was born severe learning disabilities & autism with slight CP. Gave up a £23000 per year job as they wouldnt reduce my hours (was doing 50-60 per week) as had 3 kids 3 & under for the pitance they give you on benefits. Was told he would never talk, spent years getting him better only for covid to knock him back. Had every intention to return to work but now my health has gotten worse 10 years ago i could walk miles now i struggle to make it to the bathroom. I have always told my kids its better to work if you can & anyone who thinks your better off on benefits has either a)not worked or b) cheating the system.
I now understand there are people who through no choice of their own will never have a option but to think that everyone is been tarred with the same brush over & over again that we are skivvers, lazy & putting it on, pisses me off.
Benefits system was meant to be a safety net for when things went wrong & to support those in need, now it seems like a noose dragging you down scared of it been stopped or fighting tooth & nail & jumping through rings of fire fighting liars & a system designed to break you.
It makes you question whats gone wrong that everyone bullies the disabled to make themselves feel better. End of rant.
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Oh daft question number 2 for the day, carers are in the not required for work group will we also have our money reduced?
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I'm for a reforming of the benefits system, I'm for tailored support for disabled people who feel that they could enter or re-enter the job market but I'm against demonising disabled people, I'm very angry and upset at this blatant ableism which has been given the "ok" by the government and the media.
How many millions of disabled people are in Britain? How many of them have family and friends? That's a big cohort if you add them up together. Labour, the Tories, Reform, the conservative/right aligned media are NOT in the majority on this and despite their BS, the British public will see this as morally and ethically abhorrent if the lives of disabled people are made to be a further hell.
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The issue with transitional protection is that people were forced to migrate over from legacy benefits, in my case four months ago. I have just received LCWRA and had my transitional protection reduced by £416. When they reduce or scrap LCWRA they won't reinstate people's transitional protection. It looks as though everybody on legacy was forced to migrate, given TP and then LCWRA losing their transitional protection and they will come in and take the LCWRA effectively stealing our transitional protection. Nothing shocks me anymore. I never thought I would say it but the Tories were not even as harsh as this, they at least gave cost of living payments during COVID and didn't take the winter fuel allowance from the elderly. I think the Conservatives to an extent tread carefully so they are not called labelled cruel by opposition and media. I worry people are not going to call Labour out enough and the people who do, their voices will get lost.
I don't like Tories or Labour but I didn't think Labour would go after the most vulnerable in society. All of us are one diagnosis or accident away from being disabled and when you are disabled, you feel vulnerable and helpless to an extent and already feel a burden on family and now we are being very publically made to feel a burden to society and targeted by the very people who should be protecting us.
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I’m new to this forum, I found it after having a series of rolling panic attacks. I have bipolar disorder which became so bad in 2020 that I developed agoraphobia. I don't feel like I have the strength to fight this government or these cuts.
Every time I've tried to even volunteer, the stress has ended up with me taking antipsychotics. The will is there but my mind cannot cope.
I'm currently being switched from ESA to UC, and I'm so frightened for the future. I wish the government would talk to us, listen to us. We are human beings, and for us, work will not set us free.
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You are so right. I worked as much and as long as I could. It crippled my 'normal' life, even at school I was always an alien. Now, nearing pension age, I just want some peace. Not riches, not unending happiness - just peace
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I’m confused regarding the migration. I’m on legacy esa and assumed I would get an increase when I transition over as I’m not able to claim severe disability premiums. Are you saying when you transition over you don’t really get the TP and lose over £400.
I remember the relief when Tory’s were voted out but omg I’d give anything for them to come back into power. All main parties are against us with no opposition to their plans. The only think we can hope for is if this is delayed for as long as possible as they won’t get a second term surely.
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My situation is when I migrated over from legacy I was given £500 TP and as soon as I was awarded LCWRA my TP was reduced by £416 so now my TP is £84. If they reduce or scrap LCWRA and don't reinstate TP then I will be down £416 per month. It feels as if this is a way to get rid of TP which they didn't want to give to people in the first place. It feels very deliberate but maybe I am overthinking it and it won't be as bad as I think it will and maybe they will reinstate people's TP but I don't hold out much hope.
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weren’t the dwp taken to court in the last couple of years for not honouring the correct TP amount after managed migration and the upper tribunal ordered them to sort it out and pay people the correct TP?
Another member or mod will know for sure.
But dealing with dwp 101 - they often make financial mistakes in award calculations & payments and it’s up to the claimant to get on and stay on their case to make sure they correct things (and as this is the dwp don’t be surprised if it takes a month of Sundays!)
Also I believe those on esa wrag may also have severe and enhanced disability elements on their award and be pre 2017? legacy wrag claimants (when Osborne lowered new wrag claimants to the same award amount as jsa - pre existing wrag esa claimants higher award amount was and still is protected) - point I’m making is that esa wrag group under going managed migration may also have TP (once again if a mod or member with policy knowledge can double check the above as I’m not a solid 100% sure)
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Transitional Protection is designed to top up your UC award at the time of transfer, if legacy benefits were of a higher amount.
TP stops through a major change of circumstances such as swapping between a single/couple claim.
TP reduces with the annual benefit rises, or with the award of a new element which is what happened with Lou. They were awarded LCWRA so their TP reduced by the same amount.
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I know the courts ordered TP to be paid but when you receive another benefit in my case LCWRA they then reduce your TP by the amount of the new benefit so currently I get LCWRA £416 per month and TP of £84. If they reduce or scrap LCWRA they should reinstate people's TP but given they are trying to save as much money as possible I cannot see them reinstating it.
They didn't want to give it to people in the first place so I cannot see them giving it back to people. I hope I am wrong as the loss of it would be devastating for everybody affected.
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I’m on legacy ESA and pip with no severe disability premiums as I have an adult child at home . From what I read going over to LCWRA uc I should get more as I wasn’t getting the SDP anyway . Is this correct ? Although it could all change by the time I get my migration letter of course .
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Yes dpac.uk.net
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Yes, UC Standard Allowance +LCWRA pays £809.64.
The monthly ESA equivalent is £689.21.
So you are better off.
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thank you . Let’s hope these changes don’t go through 🙏
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