March 26th and Green Paper Mega Discussion (ITV leaks, etc)

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  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 4,088 Championing

    Best make sure someone tapes her saying that as she will blatantly denie it

  • Zipz
    Zipz Online Community Member Posts: 1,686 Empowering
    edited March 10

    From "The I" 10th March 2025 12:03 PM:

    A freeze to personal independence payments (PIP) in 2026 could cost some claimants more than £350 a year, analysis shows.

    The Government is planning to unveil more than £6bn of welfare savings this week, which could include a decision not to increase PIP in line with inflation from April next year.

    Typically, PIP payments are uprated annually in line with the previous September’s Consumer Prices Index (CPI) inflation reading.

    The payments are made to those who have a long-term health condition or disability that causes them difficulty in doing certain everyday tasks or getting around.

    A freeze to the benefit during a year when inflation is set to be well above the Bank of England’s 2 per cent target will mean claimants get less money in real terms than they otherwise would have.

    There are different rates for PIP depending on a person’s condition and there is a daily living and mobility component.

    Someone getting the enhanced rate for both components can currently receive a total of £184.30 per week – £108.55 a week for daily living and £75.75 a week for mobility.

    This is due to rise to £187.45 per week – £110.40 and £77.05 for each component – from April this year, in line with last year’s inflation figure which was 1.7 per cent.

    So, the Green Paper is hitting this week.

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 847 Championing

    bit of a concerning development from the guardian live text today:

    (Though may be helpful knowing the names of potentially problematic labour mps if they are essentially ousting their position on this)

  • Andi66
    Andi66 Online Community Member Posts: 728 Trailblazing

    Quite right, They are disgusting. It's hard to live with these conditions, and they have the nerve to do this . Reeves net worth is 2 million, plus they are getting over a thousand pounds pay increase next year

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Online Community Member Posts: 91 Empowering

    Catherine thank-you so much for replying to me . And the kind advice and reassurance. I really appreciate it. I appreciate everyone on here. We really are a lovely supportive community.

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Online Community Member Posts: 91 Empowering

    There doesn't seem to be much support from the charities at the moment Chris.

    They aren't shouting loud enough, some are not shouting at all.

    We need them behind us...so this is very disappointing.

    We had a couple of words from James Taylor at scope but that's been it...

    Thank God for people like ellen clifford.

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 847 Championing

    Publish on the times website in the last few hours:

  • Verity123
    Verity123 Online Community Member Posts: 14 Connected

    The problem is we need at least some public support like the pensioners, although little help that support did in the end! But the public seem to be very much in favour of this, not helped by the Governments gaslighting.

    Can I suggest some sort of protest in London!

    Why don't we roll down the streets of central London and slow up the traffic in our wheelchairs, like the farmers have done with their tractors!

    C'mon whose up for it, no point sitting on our laptops whinging about this, we need to actually do something!!

  • Ranald
    Ranald Online Community Member Posts: 753 Championing

    It won't make any difference. Look at how Blair ignored the marches against the Iraq war.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 217 Empowering

    so they want to save £6b a year when the Tory plan was 1.5-2billion which meant a loss of £400 per month for LCWRA . That was found unlawful so how can they quickly push this through as they’ve apparently stated they will? Surely this still has to go to the House of Lords and probably court not to mention the ECHR ? I read somewhere that there are 9 million unemployed including over 2miliion sick disabled . The fact that they’re concentrating on us instead of the healthy job seekers proves it’s a money saving exercise which the judge said was unlawful if I remember correctly. Hope that all makes sense as my brains in melt down right now .

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,261 Trailblazing

    Unfortunately that is just not practical for a lot of us.

  • Verity123
    Verity123 Online Community Member Posts: 14 Connected

    Sorry for the double re-post, still finding my way around this forum!

    We need protest and can you imagine us doing what the farmers did with their tractors in London, only with our wheelchairs! Let's get 1,000 of us in wheelchairs slowing up the trafic in central London, can you imagine that and the turn in public sympathy would be huge!!

    C'mon I'm up for it, who else??

  • judie
    judie Online Community Member Posts: 269 Empowering

    Great in principle but unfortunately many of us can't get to the end of our street or even leave the house, let alone travel hundreds of miles to protest. If I could, I would probably be able to work. Instead I am so scared and don't know what to do.

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 847 Championing

    Backbenchers setting up a support group to back incoming legislation from the government (in this case for welfare reforms proposed in disability green paper) is highly highly unusual

    Actually has it ever happened before?

    Also in the guardian piece I posted yesterday this popped out

    I don’t think I’ve in recent years seen a gov work so hard to gag backbenchers and get them to 100% conform to the official official position (if I could bet huge money on gov whips telling labours to keep in line and if one toenail steps out of place threaten them with loss of the whip)

    As I said I don’t even remember a time a past gov went so heavy trying to control their mps - a certain regime in history is more and more coming to mind each time I read a new paper piece on upcoming welfare forum

    Scope mods don’t like the W word but depending on contents of the disability green paper it may turn out to be the most accurate description


    this is technically the claim before the storm - those that are able to take a break from online news, social media and even scope media till the weekend or even one or 2 days please do so and look after yourself (I’m sure a member will provide a update summary of what you missed if you ask)

    Any opposition to gov plans is looking much harder today than a week to get results from and we need the disabled community to stay mentally in one piece (even if being held together with tape and glue) if we have a chance to navigating the future (crawling if need be - doesn’t need to be pretty , just driven by determination!)

  • Verity123
    Verity123 Online Community Member Posts: 14 Connected

    Then with the greatest of respect we're all f*cked and may as well start getting used to it!

    Maybe the Government right, we all need a kick up the ar*se!!

    Very sad, good bye everyone, this thread is just full of preachers preaching to the converted!!

  • Danny123
    Danny123 Online Community Member Posts: 73 Contributor

    Nothing like waking up to another terrifying day 🤦 .... I blame myself for reading a daily mail article and then some of it's comments , some of Thier readers really hate us 😔…. Time to stop trying to read all this , I can't function

  • FluffyCatMeow
    FluffyCatMeow Online Community Member Posts: 66 Contributor

    in this article it says,


    ‘Liz Kendall, the work and pensions secretary, is expected to set out plans next week that will abolish the highest level of disability benefit, under which jobseekers can double their income if they are signed off unfit for any work.’


    Is LCWRA being fully abolished? I thought it was being cut a bit rather than completely got rid of?

  • mangomungo
    mangomungo Online Community Member Posts: 157 Empowering

    It’ll be the backbenchers that lose their seats so they need to grow a back bone and speak up against it, if they lose the whip so be it then Starmer loses his majority.

    They were all against the Tories benefit cuts and imagine if this was Sunak announcing these plans it’d be a home run from Starmer and Rayner but suddenly it’s ok when they do it? They need to remember the last election wasnt a victory for labour it was a loss for the Tories and it was only the previous election to that with Johnson that the red wall crumbled in front of our very eyes. It’s not only cruel its politically illiterate they’re biting their nose to spite their face. Even David Cameron had to climb down from welfare cuts and didn’t get his full package through so god knows why a LABOUR government think it’s going to be so easy to whittle away what’s left of the welfare state after 14 years of conservatives.

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