March 26th and Green Paper Mega Discussion (ITV leaks, etc)
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Catherine thank-you so much for replying to me . And the kind advice and reassurance. I really appreciate it. I appreciate everyone on here. We really are a lovely supportive community.
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There doesn't seem to be much support from the charities at the moment Chris.
They aren't shouting loud enough, some are not shouting at all.
We need them behind us...so this is very disappointing.
We had a couple of words from James Taylor at scope but that's been it...
Thank God for people like ellen clifford.
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Publish on the times website in the last few hours:
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The problem is we need at least some public support like the pensioners, although little help that support did in the end! But the public seem to be very much in favour of this, not helped by the Governments gaslighting.
Can I suggest some sort of protest in London!
Why don't we roll down the streets of central London and slow up the traffic in our wheelchairs, like the farmers have done with their tractors!
C'mon whose up for it, no point sitting on our laptops whinging about this, we need to actually do something!!
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It won't make any difference. Look at how Blair ignored the marches against the Iraq war.
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so they want to save £6b a year when the Tory plan was 1.5-2billion which meant a loss of £400 per month for LCWRA . That was found unlawful so how can they quickly push this through as they’ve apparently stated they will? Surely this still has to go to the House of Lords and probably court not to mention the ECHR ? I read somewhere that there are 9 million unemployed including over 2miliion sick disabled . The fact that they’re concentrating on us instead of the healthy job seekers proves it’s a money saving exercise which the judge said was unlawful if I remember correctly. Hope that all makes sense as my brains in melt down right now .
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Unfortunately that is just not practical for a lot of us.
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Sorry for the double re-post, still finding my way around this forum!
We need protest and can you imagine us doing what the farmers did with their tractors in London, only with our wheelchairs! Let's get 1,000 of us in wheelchairs slowing up the trafic in central London, can you imagine that and the turn in public sympathy would be huge!!
C'mon I'm up for it, who else??
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Great in principle but unfortunately many of us can't get to the end of our street or even leave the house, let alone travel hundreds of miles to protest. If I could, I would probably be able to work. Instead I am so scared and don't know what to do.
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Backbenchers setting up a support group to back incoming legislation from the government (in this case for welfare reforms proposed in disability green paper) is highly highly unusual
Actually has it ever happened before?
Also in the guardian piece I posted yesterday this popped out
I don’t think I’ve in recent years seen a gov work so hard to gag backbenchers and get them to 100% conform to the official official position (if I could bet huge money on gov whips telling labours to keep in line and if one toenail steps out of place threaten them with loss of the whip)
As I said I don’t even remember a time a past gov went so heavy trying to control their mps - a certain regime in history is more and more coming to mind each time I read a new paper piece on upcoming welfare forum
Scope mods don’t like the W word but depending on contents of the disability green paper it may turn out to be the most accurate description
this is technically the claim before the storm - those that are able to take a break from online news, social media and even scope media till the weekend or even one or 2 days please do so and look after yourself (I’m sure a member will provide a update summary of what you missed if you ask)Any opposition to gov plans is looking much harder today than a week to get results from and we need the disabled community to stay mentally in one piece (even if being held together with tape and glue) if we have a chance to navigating the future (crawling if need be - doesn’t need to be pretty , just driven by determination!)
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Then with the greatest of respect we're all f*cked and may as well start getting used to it!
Maybe the Government right, we all need a kick up the ar*se!!
Very sad, good bye everyone, this thread is just full of preachers preaching to the converted!!
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in this article it says,
‘Liz Kendall, the work and pensions secretary, is expected to set out plans next week that will abolish the highest level of disability benefit, under which jobseekers can double their income if they are signed off unfit for any work.’
Is LCWRA being fully abolished? I thought it was being cut a bit rather than completely got rid of?0 -
It’ll be the backbenchers that lose their seats so they need to grow a back bone and speak up against it, if they lose the whip so be it then Starmer loses his majority.
They were all against the Tories benefit cuts and imagine if this was Sunak announcing these plans it’d be a home run from Starmer and Rayner but suddenly it’s ok when they do it? They need to remember the last election wasnt a victory for labour it was a loss for the Tories and it was only the previous election to that with Johnson that the red wall crumbled in front of our very eyes. It’s not only cruel its politically illiterate they’re biting their nose to spite their face. Even David Cameron had to climb down from welfare cuts and didn’t get his full package through so god knows why a LABOUR government think it’s going to be so easy to whittle away what’s left of the welfare state after 14 years of conservatives.
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can this legally be pushed through this quickly or can court proceedings delay it ? This must do against our human rights?
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Until an official announcement is made no one knows but nothing surprises me with this awful government.
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There is one 26th March outside parliament I don't know what time does anyone else know
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I agree even if someone draws up a template email that thousands of us send every week to get the message through some people can't attend physically kimmy apples I know you have some ideas could you write a template for us all to send
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Estonians saying: Töö on lollide ja hobuste jaoks - Work is for fools and horses.
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We need to find out what ellen Clifford's meeting said
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