March 26th and Green Paper Mega Discussion (ITV leaks, etc)

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  • FluffyCatMeow
    FluffyCatMeow Online Community Member Posts: 95 Contributor

    in this article it says,


    ‘Liz Kendall, the work and pensions secretary, is expected to set out plans next week that will abolish the highest level of disability benefit, under which jobseekers can double their income if they are signed off unfit for any work.’


    Is LCWRA being fully abolished? I thought it was being cut a bit rather than completely got rid of?

  • mangomungo
    mangomungo Online Community Member Posts: 178 Empowering

    It’ll be the backbenchers that lose their seats so they need to grow a back bone and speak up against it, if they lose the whip so be it then Starmer loses his majority.

    They were all against the Tories benefit cuts and imagine if this was Sunak announcing these plans it’d be a home run from Starmer and Rayner but suddenly it’s ok when they do it? They need to remember the last election wasnt a victory for labour it was a loss for the Tories and it was only the previous election to that with Johnson that the red wall crumbled in front of our very eyes. It’s not only cruel its politically illiterate they’re biting their nose to spite their face. Even David Cameron had to climb down from welfare cuts and didn’t get his full package through so god knows why a LABOUR government think it’s going to be so easy to whittle away what’s left of the welfare state after 14 years of conservatives.

  • secretsquirrel1
    secretsquirrel1 Online Community Member Posts: 673 Championing

    can this legally be pushed through this quickly or can court proceedings delay it ? This must do against our human rights?

  • luvpink
    luvpink Online Community Member Posts: 1,943 Championing

    Until an official announcement is made no one knows but nothing surprises me with this awful government.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,266 Championing

    There is one 26th March outside parliament I don't know what time does anyone else know

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,266 Championing

    I agree even if someone draws up a template email that thousands of us send every week to get the message through some people can't attend physically kimmy apples I know you have some ideas could you write a template for us all to send

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,266 Championing

    We need to find out what ellen Clifford's meeting said

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,266 Championing

    There's a protest 26th March outside parliament I don't know what time maybe somebody else knows ????

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,266 Championing

    Get someone who's clued up to write email template and we all send to all labour mps send same email every week till they get the message flood them with thousands emails that we all can do

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,266 Championing

    Why don't someone write an email template and we all email labour mps once a week same email saying same things outline everything out the lies they been putting in media and put facts in come on some very knowledgeable people on here look at it as a MR we are fighting for we have been victimised dehumanised bully put of our minds we can't keep saying on here day after day we have to do something and this is a good idea come on !!!!!@ cant keep relying on charities THIS IS OUR FUTURE stop sitting back waiting for it to happen alot of us housebound it's easy for us to send we need to do now

  • egister
    egister Posts: 887 Empowering

    Estonians saying: Töö on lollide ja hobuste jaoks - Work is for fools and horses.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,266 Championing

    Apples write up a template email outlining everything from the human side of it to the lies send it to the group and everyone should send to all labour mps once a week same email flood them with come on we need ACTION NOW we know they don't care we need to get a back bone and do this at least it's like sitting waiting for a earthquake and not moving

  • apple85
    apple85 Online Community Member Posts: 888 Championing

    I don’t think they can

    Right now charities like scope can get semi regular access to ministers such as Stephen timms and even Kendall herself

    If they say launched, say a lawsuit to the high courts then I think access to ministers would be axed

    (We have seen what is happening in America if someone publically questions/disagrees with trump - obviously the uk is nowhere near this level however many sources have told media that starmer is the most ruthless pm in recent history and there’s been a few things in the past few months that I didn’t think a uk gov was capable doing (such as significantly cutting foreign aid) and especially a labour gov but it’s clear that we are in unprecedented times and the rule book has been thrown out of the window)

    if we do need to persuade gov to u turn, water down things or change direction then we need to do so on multiple fronts

    So it’s important one of those fronts is charities talking directly to ministers as they are versed in ‘language’ we aren’t (individual anger would rub ministers up the wrong way and they’d shut off - charity like scope are better at diplomacy and controlling emotions

    Other fronts to ‘fight’ via include (but not limited to) writing to relevant figures, protests (in person and virtually), campaigns and legal cases (just a few)

    Members on the scope forum may be able to help each other with a few of the above - but disability charities may not be the most knowledgeable or well placed for other actions - and disability organisations (including known disability activists- both groups and individuals) are probably better placed to inform and help with other ideas

  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Online Community Member Posts: 161 Empowering

    There is no way i can work.…I'm now facing up to the very real possibility that I will be destitute and probably homeless in the near future.

    Feeling utterly lost and hopeless, but I'm not going down without a fight.

  • FluffyCatMeow
    FluffyCatMeow Online Community Member Posts: 95 Contributor

    it’s all so stressful isn’t it 🥺

    I really hope things work out as ok as they can, and that these plans get watered down a lot

  • ThirtySixteen
    ThirtySixteen Online Community Member Posts: 53 Empowering
  • pinkrose
    pinkrose Online Community Member Posts: 161 Empowering

    It's horrible fluffycatmeow, everyday is a challenge for us sick and disabled but this is making us more ill.

    The Stress is unbearable. I vomited all through the night on Saturday , and my crohns and lupus have flared due to stress.

  • ThirtySixteen
    ThirtySixteen Online Community Member Posts: 53 Empowering

    My wife has only been on UC with LCWRA for 3 months.
    We were forced to migrate to UC from Tax Credits and as such we were given the transitional element of £410.

    Then she was deemed unfit for work and given the disability premium.

    Now, if they take that away we will be £416 worse off.

    It would have been better if they didn’t give us it at all.

    This government are absolute scum.

  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,266 Championing
  • Catherine21
    Catherine21 Posts: 5,266 Championing

    Yes that's a good idea ofcom what date and time was it and what exactly did she say then we could all report good idea

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