DWP reform - where we are now (on 8/3/25) & possible steps once gov makes official announcement

@Zipz and @luvpink

I’m hoping that the mods concluded that this thread differentiate itself enough itself from whatever is the latest master thread (my thought is that any ideas posted would get lost and difficult to locate if absorbed in a master thread.

I hope you do continue your occasional posts zip

I didn’t even think of contacting religious leaders - I’m not religious but recognise they hold a lot of clout/media gives them paper space (also Stephen timms is Uber religious which could put him in a interesting position

I didn’t suggest this before by what do people think of a doc listing non mps (or non politicians) that may be worth reaching out to with any publically accessible contact details (that said individual has clearly posted up by their own choice……….dont want to be posting private email addresses or home addresses)?

let me know thoughts

Large scale public backlash

I’m going to keep this post short as honestly whether there is large public backlash to things like disability welfare cuts and tightened criteria is a lot out of our communities control

You need a public audience to be able to get your message across (media and newspaper reporting being the biggest, most effective) and starmer is likely on a first name basis with most of the editors

I’ll post this snippet from my post from early today from the welfare reform master thread on my opinion of starmer and labours current tactics as I think it’s relevant

One plus side is labour don’t have the media favouritism in the same ways the tories did - the far right papers may still go after starmer and co (I recommend reading some of the comments on the far right GB News recent articles on welfare - a surprising amount of understanding posters or at least a little common sense - I get the impression that starmer may have declared welfare reforms the number one location for cuts in his speech last not but a significant number of fair right have us ranked 4th to 8th in treasury raid locations.

My recommendation is to chat to people out and about if you feel safe to (there’s been a couple of instances in my local area of disabled getting harassed so your safety is the priority here) and if you are a good writer prehaps try emailing newspapers and tv news (prehaps even the editors of dispatches and panarama)

Though prehaps I’m throwing in the towel too easily on this bullet point….

firstly I promise you that your username did not pop up in my head once in any posts I’ve written in the last week or so

I figured a lot of the longer term scope members were taking a break from the forum whilst this current rumor and news overload was going on - it’s kind of mad out there and ‘timeouts’ are a sensible response

Second - my heart sinks every time I read one of these posts from you where I’ve unintentionally touched a nerve and upset you - these heated discussions you and me have really stress me out and I really feel uncomfortable with confrontation (I’m not sure of your age but I get the impression that there is an generational age gap between us which can be difficult to bridge, but I think I’ve mentioned in the past that my memory is horrendous and history knowledge is terrible - your grasp on history is obviously better then mine)

I know you’re not a fan of Davey but can’t it be okay that I still believe in the guy

Starmer is very lucky to have your support as I don’t think many of the community feels that way about him at this moment - didn’t I say to you before that I didn’t trust the people and advisers starmers currently surrounded by and it’s possible he’s following much bad advice. I was very much team starmer till a year or 2 back around the time he promoted the likes of reeves of Kendall to prominent shadow cabinet positions - if starmer goes full circle back to his 2017 self then I will be thrilled

In terms of abrahams people can change a lot in a decade (just look at some of the Americans current prominent figure viewpoints to 10 years back)

I was planning to write in a later planned post that my legal knowledge is patchy (though I have stumbled across some stories of dodgy lawyers/solicitors ‘helping’ claimants try to bring their case to court) - there’s no solid advice on putting together a claimant case to the high courts or elsewhere and staying safe doing so - - and reading around a reading resource like that would be of use to a number of disabled that wonder if it’s a step they can take. There’s very little legal advice I would feel okay with typing and there’s certainly no lawyer or solicitor I can personally recommend (only a list of past claimant vs dwp security of state over the past 10 odd years that case made it to court) - if you’ve got knowledge in this area then please share as it could help other members

But I get the impression that you don’t agree with people like myself trying to encourage to take action - and are of the school of thought currently of leave things along and see if things natural resolve - but can’t the 2 theories co exist and be separate to one another?

I’m going to be blunt - I get the impression you don’t like me, nor think I am very bright and you probably wish ppl like me would find elsewhere to spread our views

I started this thread to try and other members with a desire to be proactive if welfare reforms are as challenging as feared and spare my time creating resources if that would help others

But I don’t have the energy to carry on repeating the same heated discussion - I have too much going on in my own life right now

please be direct and just tell me via post or DM if you’d rather I step away from the forum for the next month or so until politically things concerning welfare is no longer front page news because you think I’m stirring trouble and I’m 99% sure this thread will die naturally (no need for a mod to close it)

any member that still wants to chat is welcome to DM me with any requests

But honestly I’m exhausted and don’t like being places I’m clearly not wanted (if even by a few - as I said, hate confrontation)