Upcoming changes to benefits
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Both your own experiences and why you oppose cuts generally are perfectly good things to include. Be polite but firm. And if this is a Labour MP something along the line of "if these cruel and unjustified measures come into force, the devastation caused to your party will likely resemble that caused to the unfortunate individuals affected" would be a good way to finish.
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Just emailed my mp, about the cuts , doubt he will reply he never does. I'm on esa and get pip . So does that mean when I do get uc it will cut to nothing. I'm so worried, about bills, and I have pets. I rather starve than see them go hungry. But I pay insurance on them . My conditions won't get better. Copd also effects your heart the stress probably make my heart give out. My other conditions is genetic so again won't get better. I am on antidepressants as it is . Have ptsd ,so all this is making things worse
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I think i put something like this view of theirs (labour) on disabled people was similar to the view of the Nazi's & that they are pushing their own voters away. Think i ended it with be the Labour Party not Red Tories or Lie-bour.
Might write again
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So glad you said this, especially because so much of what’s being leaked echoes Sunak’s bs from last year — specifically targeting the mentally ill. (And I’m fed up with them calling it ‘mental health’ — it’s mental ILLNESS! Everyone has mental health, just like everyone has physical health!)
All disabilities matter just as much whether you can see them or not. We need to stand together.
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I have been watching noah on you tube for a while now and for a while he had disappeared and I couldn't find him on any platform. I had is you tube come up last night and he explained the pip and UC cuts if that's what you want to call them. Please go and check him out. He does make sense. He really did put my mind at ease.
Noah Bear Nyle Life on YouTube.
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Ok wrote again but also apologised for writing again. I headed it as benefits & labour betrayal (god i need spellcheck)
In it i pointed in our town her constiuents have been hit by WFA cut, 2 child cap, our farmers & now this. Have said its going to kill that its better to be a independent then lose her seat at the next GE. That i became disabled in my 40's had to give medicial evidence & in person assessment to get my pip & its got zero fraud.
Also said its like the front bench want to destroy the party & that we voted for change & not more of tge same & there are already people planning the tatical votes to oust the 35mps who wrote the support letter.
Think thats it.
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Why are we infighting?
I think its because of the few young idiots that film themselves saying look what i got making everyone else look bad & the fact people are scared.
I have so called invisible disabilities, CFS, Fibro & F.N.D but also suffer with DDD, osteoarthritis of the spine, asthma, have constant disc bulges from prolasped discs, part of my spine has fussed togther, have cysts in my spine, have been advised to go to A&E straight away if i dont know ive pee'd as damage gone wrong way & could end up paraylsed, muscles going in my leg might be getting arthritis in my hands & waiting for adult autism diagnosis. Oh yeah depression NOS or something like that.
So which catorgary to i fit in?
According to labour the bin
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I agree pretty much with everything you said, I too didnt sign the Scope form, as I feel there is no need for so much personal details to be given.
Labour also have a history with deliberately misleading charities, charities were told one thing for ESA, and then another thing happened when it launched. Its difficult for a charity to recognise they are being duped I get that, but no charity should be publically approving things until they know its true, and that can only happen after the launch.
Also agree the welfare changes are central to this Labour front bench, I have the opinion a lot of this was planned even before the election. But they are not as good at hiding this stuff as the Tories, what was revealed during that Labour meeting, Kendall having the confidence to let slip and so forth. Kendall also ghosted disabled constituents pre election. We also have one of the DWP ministers going on about how the Tories ignored the benefit spending cap with all the help they provided such as cost of living payments and increases linked to inflation, LHA increase etc. Its the female minister, cant remember her name. But she made it clear Labour think all of that was wrong to do. So of course now Labour are back in power LHA got frozen again immediately, PIP frozen in 2026 (and probably will be in successive years after), as well as cuts to LCWRA component on UC, which we dont yet know size although ITV say between 25-50%.
Value of cuts in excess of double the Tory plans.
Also Labour are talking the talk about getting back to work and barriers, yet they didnt copy the Tory idea of giving LCWRA immunity to assessments if they try to do a job. Under the Labour plans, that risk is back again.
I tried to warn pre election, the appointment of Kendall, Reeves telling parliament her intentions, front bench made up of Tory lite ideologists, the horrific treatment of Corbyn, Labour's history on sickness benefits.2 -
Unless people have suffered mental illness they won’t understand what it’s like. It’s debilitating, leaves me bed bound for a week or more at a time, speaking to someone for 5 minutes leaves me reeling for days giving me tics and panic attacks, I can’t socialise, get my haircut or even go to the dentist, stress causes psychosis. My short term memory is shot to pieces.
It’s a disability under the equality act whether people like it or not. I haven’t seen many people that have physical disabilities blaming those with mental health, a lot are standing up for us, if they are against people claiming for ‘anxiety’ as I’ve seen mentioned it’s the usual ignorant faceless accounts online. They need to ask why are so many of us out of work or relying on PIP? Because the services are abysmal and you ask for help and get a kick in the teeth instead. And I’m sure they don’t want someone like me in a workplace having meltdowns every other day, being completely unreliable, useless at anything I try to do because of the brain fog I suffer with and my complete social ineptness. Every time I’ve tried to fit in somewhere I’ve been bullied because people aren’t willing to help they see me as an inconvenience. Mental illness is just as valid of a reason to be unable to work as someone that has physical disabilities or illnesses and if they try to split the two so one group is targeted it is discrimination and will be taken to court6 -
When they say cutting UC for people that can't work as I am claiming UC & LCWRA element will that be affected
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Its good he is making these comments, but needs to be doing it with intensity, as the government keep fuelling regular stories about these plans, to keep it fresh in peoples minds.
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Politics is dirty, these documentaries always happen around the time governments want to do a policy change, to soften up the public. Both the BBC and C4 can be leveraged.
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Jess Phillips MP, 11/04/2018
Is she still standing up for people in need? Genuine question, I don't know the answer yet but if someone is in her constituency, it may be a good time to write and ask.
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The reason they did the move, is the majority of all new legislation only applies to UC, and in the long term it saves money as UC has no SDP, TP would only last temporarily until eroded away. (for myself I calculated 4 (financial) years based on expected inflation, as I migrated only a few months before April, in reality 3 years and a bit).
A lot of rules are more strict on UC as well, there is regular reviews for means testing, its easier and quicker for them to close claims, they can recover debt much faster and so on. There is also some efficiency improvements, although as I learnt recently also still some inefficiency in place.1 -
Would these new changes to PIP criteria and eligibility not unfairly target those with mental health issues? Surely it's discriminatory and can be challenged in court especially if it puts us at greater risk of harm and deprivation, I'd love to hear what a solicitor or lawywer would think about this. Even if the plans get the go ahead how long would they take to be implemented, are we talking months or years? Iv'e just been reawarded my PIP for another 4 years and now like others I'm terrified this will be the last time I'll ever get it again. Like alot of people on here I have to use that money mainly to top my rent up, which it's not supposed to be for that, but to help with my everyday needs etc. I wish I could afford my own legal advice about all of this as certain groups who are supposed to be helping us are just putting out scripted responses to our concerns.
I think I'm more worried about being reviewed again for PIP in 4 years and facing new criteria that I won't be able to meet, even though my mental health is terrible, but by sounds of things if you can answer a phone or type on a keyboard, or turn the page of a book, you'll lose points for PIP and won't get it. Absolutely ridiculous and evil these plans are!!
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My guess this could take years, and will end up getting wattered down before they become law.
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HHow are you secretsquirrel I've crashed and burned head all over the place hope your OK x
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That's what I'm worried about if moved to uc after September god this is awful from us both worrying about uc to this cruel
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Meg I remember you saying about substantial risk if you where given points under that you'd get reassessment
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I’m sorry if it came over as though I was/was trying to initiate infighting in any way (if that was directed at me.) That absolutely wasn’t my intention and I did say in my comment that we need to stick together, regardless of our disabilities, whether physical or mental or both.
The thing is, if these “young idiots” are posting saying they have PIP, then their conditions must be severe enough to be awarded, because we all know how much of a struggle that can be! I’m fairly young (25, first applied aged 22, awarded at 23) for mental illnesses and I felt as though it took until the tribunal for anyone to take me seriously. So it does bug me when people (no one here, but politicians) talk about all these young people being on PIP for “mental health issues” when it is a significant and catastrophic thing.
You don’t belong in the bin, and please don’t let these bstards try and convince you otherwise. It sounds really difficult to have all the physical AND mental conditions you have, and I hope you have an adequate support system and medical input. You deserve that, and you not only deserve but have a RIGHT to live the best life you can. These out of touch, idiotic politicians will never understand. But we do.Again I’m sorry if my comment came over as dismissive or diminishing — I just think it’s important for the wider public to stand up for those of us with invisible disabilities too, and I’m sick of mental illness not being taken seriously by people in power. They could not live a DAY in our brains. They just couldn’t. And if they managed, I have no doubt that their attitudes would be significantly different!
We need to stand together. They want us to be divided. And if they focus on the mentally ill, next they’ll come for the physically ill who have some degree of capacity, and so on until everyone is stripped.
We’re in this together!
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